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The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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I personally have problems with doors, and stuff that should be locked. I can never be sure I locked properly. Totally did backtrack unreasonable distances just to check if I had closed the door. It's all fine when it's my door. Worst case scenario, I get robbed. However it's more of a problem when it's someone else's door. Worst case scenario, they get robbed, and that's a different story. Or pets get out... Obvious…

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That is absolutely not how strokes and broken bones are diagnosed. If one of your bones breaks, you have a broken bone. Whether it hurts, or stops you from doing things you'd like to do, is an unrelated question.

Someone close to me broke their arm, and had to have it pinned. As it healed the bone rotated and shifted slightly. In discussing whether they'd need to try to correct this movement via surgery, the doctor very much said "it's a problem if it's a problem". When it fully healed the person had full use of their arm, so the doctor was satisfied with the outcome. The doctor did also say that different countries had diffe…

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I’ve had the same problems with regular doctors and medical issues. A lot of my problems turned out to be a milk allergy.

Doctors are just tech support for the human body. They listen to your complaint and offer up their best guess diagnosis based on what's helped previous customers with the same symptoms, but they have limited information on the system they support, the documentation is spotty and sometimes contradictory, there's a ton of bugs, and they have no escalation path because the engineer who designed the system quit ages ago…

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> if you don't require some degree of significant impairment of functioning, a whole lot of criteria for mental illness would apply to huge swaths of the population. E.g. this is why the diagnostic criteria for ADHD include: "There is clear evidence that the symptoms interfere with or reduce the quality of social, academic, or occupational functioning." Wouldn't this just tell us that these categories are completely…

No. It's a misconception that mental disorders are meant to categorize folks by sets of character/personality traits, whether or not they negatively impact someone. No, you do not have "a bit of OCD" if disorganization simply stresses you out. On the contrary, mental disorders are labels expressely intended to inform and enable treatment of distress. Disorder and treatment are inextricably linked. This is all accordi…

But basically, if you have some horrible effects from the thing, and by some herculean effort or remarkable circumstance you're able to work around it, then by definition you don't have a disorder and it's not treatable.

Heaven help you if the effort or circumstance becomes unsustainable, when you could've had years to treat the underlying problem but medicine denied it was a problem.

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Do you remember the name of the psychologist or any info I might use to look him up?

Scott Alexander. He used to post on slatestarcodex.com, but has since moved to astralcodexten.substack.com .

That's the author of the article in this thread. Are you mixing things up or are both of these things separately about him?

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> Recently I was reading a book on ADHD and the author was quite adamant that you could only be diagnosed with ADHD if your life was worse than "the norm". In this view, if you have symptoms of ADHD but can, for instance, hold down a good job then by definition you don't have ADHD. I deleted the book from my Audible account. IANAP, but that sounds correct to me. I recall the DSM requiring negative impact on one's lif…

> It would be unethical to subject someone to that risk for no possible benefit. Let's take two people, say me and Einstein. Let's say Einstein has super-severe ADHD and thus performs so poorly that he can fairly be compared to me. Is there really "no possible benefit" to curing that ADHD? Keep in mind that the real Einstein discovered relativity, and uh... I'm just going to say my contributions to science have been…

This is the argument I've been making for years. I used to be _way_ smarter than I am, I have concrete examples of things I used to do with ease that are now major cognitive effort, but I'm still alright in a lot of ways. Most folks meeting me would still consider me pretty smart, although I have profound struggles with memory lately.

And there doesn't seem to be a doctor in the world who considers this a problem. "Yep, it goes 0-60 in 27 seconds, just like a chevette should!" "but doc, it's a bugatti". That would be one hell of an incompetent mechanic.

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No. It's a misconception that mental disorders are meant to categorize folks by sets of character/personality traits, whether or not they negatively impact someone. No, you do not have "a bit of OCD" if disorganization simply stresses you out. On the contrary, mental disorders are labels expressely intended to inform and enable treatment of distress. Disorder and treatment are inextricably linked. This is all accordi…

But basically, if you have some horrible effects from the thing, and by some herculean effort or remarkable circumstance you're able to work around it, then by definition you don't have a disorder and it's not treatable. Heaven help you if the effort or circumstance becomes unsustainable, when you could've had years to treat the underlying problem but medicine denied it was a problem.

Such "herculean efforts" would constitute distress. If you're successfully busting ass every day to compensate for depressive symptoms, you might have a depressive disorder.

As for your point w.r.t. circumstances: yes, this seems to be by design. Someome who might be diagnosed with schizophrenia in the US could easily be considered just quirky or even revered as a sort of spiritual guru in other cultures where symptoms have fewer/no negative impacts (and thus do not present so "horribly").

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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I personally have problems with doors, and stuff that should be locked. I can never be sure I locked properly. Totally did backtrack unreasonable distances just to check if I had closed the door. It's all fine when it's my door. Worst case scenario, I get robbed. However it's more of a problem when it's someone else's door. Worst case scenario, they get robbed, and that's a different story. Or pets get out... Obvious…

There's a very helpful method for being confident that you did something right, and while it may not be enough for people with compulsive disorders, it's great for many situations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_and_calling I think it works by recruiting more of your body & brain to the task of attending to something. Maybe the anxious could video themselves doing it, and watch it back later.

Now that you mention it, it's also something I do. I tend to make a little dance and improvise a song. My neighbor probably thinks I'm nuts...

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level 2 of that game, tho': "Is the list I made to know what to take pictures of complete? Did I really take pictures of everything? What about that thing I'm not remembering right now and wasn't on the list but I'm pretty sure I didn't turn it off, either ..."

Sunflower Labs https://www.sunflower-labs.com/ and Ring will have products for you. The latter is only $250 and you can stick a drone at home you can look through. I think you could also just stick one of the Amazon Echo Shows that has Drop-in or Auto-Answer or whatever (the Google Nests don't, disappointingly).

you can stick a drone at home you can look through.

Is the Amazon home drone a real product, or was that just a CGI demo?

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