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HK's Apple Daily raided by 500 officers over national security law

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Re: HK's Apple Daily raided by 500 officers over national security law

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Post by makeitdouble »

typeformer wrote: post #4

This is tragic, the US, Japan, Canada, GB, AUS, the EU need to band together to counter China’s egregious rights abuses instead of solely pursuing their own business and national interests. They could all offer residency programs for the bright students and others that are currently suffocating there. China can’t punish all these countries together. If no one stands up Taiwan will be next to fall and then China would…

In the current climate if the US doesn't move nobody will (or it will just be a "look at me" gesture)

Why do I think so? Because the US accumulated that unprecedented power you refer to, and Japan or GB or Canada trying anything from themselves just means they'll be pissing in the wind until the US decides to do it as well.

The EU seems to me the only exception to that, but then I am not sure its majority sees a big difference between dealing with China instead of dealing with the US.

PS: GB already offers specific routes for HK residents to come over.

Re: HK's Apple Daily raided by 500 officers over national security law

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Post by nahnopay »

Hong Kong government can get fucked, I no longer have any incentive to visit so fuck that tax bill that will only get channeled to corrupt forces ran by the mainlanders.

It's a sad situation though because the Hong Kong people are genuinely lovely people, polar opposite of a cross the border. Sure call me out, but the belief is stronger in native hong longers than the expat community, you have to live there to appreciate.

Re: HK's Apple Daily raided by 500 officers over national security law

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Post by o-__-o »

I was watching HK Apple Daily since the Hong Kong protests and lately a few of their latest videos have been showing up in my feed. While I’ve stopped watching, the thumbnails look incendiary in nature so seeing this happen is not surprising considering the news security law

Re: HK's Apple Daily raided by 500 officers over national security law

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Post by user3939382 »

As far as I can tell, you have US regulatory capture by the same multinational corporations and their executives which are getting rich by marketing products and services driven heavily by Chinese labor and supply chains. They have no financial interest in rocking the boat with the CCP, so Washington’s intervention will never amount to more than empty rhetoric and saber rattling.

Sadly for Hong Kong, US big tech, energy, healthcare, etc don’t care if they’re free so they won’t be.

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Post by milofeynman »

user3939382 wrote: post #14

As far as I can tell, you have US regulatory capture by the same multinational corporations and their executives which are getting rich by marketing products and services driven heavily by Chinese labor and supply chains. They have no financial interest in rocking the boat with the CCP, so Washington’s intervention will never amount to more than empty rhetoric and saber rattling. Sadly for Hong Kong, US big tech, ene…

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Re: HK's Apple Daily raided by 500 officers over national security law

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Post by ajkdhcb2 »

typeformer wrote: post #4

This is tragic, the US, Japan, Canada, GB, AUS, the EU need to band together to counter China’s egregious rights abuses instead of solely pursuing their own business and national interests. They could all offer residency programs for the bright students and others that are currently suffocating there. China can’t punish all these countries together. If no one stands up Taiwan will be next to fall and then China would…

Australia has been doing raids like this for some time, they are even ahead of HK

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Post by [deleted] »

milofeynman wrote: post #15
user3939382 wrote: post #14

As far as I can tell, you have US regulatory capture by the same multinational corporations and their executives which are getting rich by marketing products and services driven heavily by Chinese labor and supply chains. They have no financial interest in rocking the boat with the CCP, so Washington’s intervention will never amount to more than empty rhetoric and saber rattling. Sadly for Hong Kong, US big tech, ene…

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Post by dragonsh »

typeformer wrote: post #4

This is tragic, the US, Japan, Canada, GB, AUS, the EU need to band together to counter China’s egregious rights abuses instead of solely pursuing their own business and national interests. They could all offer residency programs for the bright students and others that are currently suffocating there. China can’t punish all these countries together. If no one stands up Taiwan will be next to fall and then China would…

> the US, Japan, Canada, GB, AUS, the EU need to band together to counter China’s egregious rights abuses

Countries living in glass houses cannot throw stones on others. Moreover each country has it's own flaws, so before asking others to correct each one of them needs to correct themselves (like those countries ruling establishment in China enjoy majority support and minority like in any system democratic or communist or authoritarian is suppressed or prosecuted). All these system needs to change in which minority are protected from tyranny of majority.

> They could all offer residency programs for the bright students

Agree with you they should also include every prosecuted community in the world in this program not just Hong Kong. Indeed program should be wide open to prosecuted minority from any country not just China. The bastion of democracy can demonstrate it in action not words, to really change the status quo.

I don't hold my breathe for it, given most democracy also works on majoritarian politics it will be hard given national self-interests trumps humanity.

Re: HK's Apple Daily raided by 500 officers over national security law

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Post by emmelaich »

ajkdhcb2 wrote: post #16
typeformer wrote: post #4

This is tragic, the US, Japan, Canada, GB, AUS, the EU need to band together to counter China’s egregious rights abuses instead of solely pursuing their own business and national interests. They could all offer residency programs for the bright students and others that are currently suffocating there. China can’t punish all these countries together. If no one stands up Taiwan will be next to fall and then China would…

Australia has been doing raids like this for some time, they are even ahead of HK

What raids are you referring to?

Re: HK's Apple Daily raided by 500 officers over national security law

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Post by Wolfenstein98k »

Hong Kong is dead, and the CCP killed it.

Daily reminder that the Chinese Government should never ever be trusted.

China agreed not to touch Hong Kong's system politically or economically until at least 2047.

They couldn't manage even half of that, and there are now many Hong Kongers sitting in jail for the "crime" of supporting democracy in Hong Kong (not even China!), which was made illegal by the CCP under "national security" laws.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_country,_two_systems

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