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Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by CountDrewku »

luffapi wrote: post #301
CountDrewku wrote: post #296

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We've reversed a lot of that destruction in the past century. You're benefiting daily from that growth and your modern lifestyle (in 1st world countries) is far above what people enjoyed even half a century ago. Unfortunately destruction is a necessary evil. There's no way to improve society while simultaneously avoiding any ecological change. Unless you're suggesting we all go back to some sort of nomadic lifestyle?

> We've reversed a lot of that destruction in the past century. Not even close, where are you getting that from? > Unless you're suggesting we all go back to some sort of nomadic lifestyle? US car culture is the first thing I’d put on the chopping block. The US military and billionaires as a class are the two highest polluting entities on the planet. Lots of additional gains to be had there. I would classify very lit…

>Not even close, where are you getting that from?

Seriously? I'm not gonna do your work for you but look up reforestation efforts, ozone hole closing, re-population of once devastated animals, pollution etc. I mean you'd have to be completely ignorant or purposely seeking a specific agenda to miss this stuff. Are you suggesting nothing has improved in the last 50 years and we're on a continuous decline?

>US car culture is the first thing I’d put on the chopping block. The US military and billionaires as a class are the two highest polluting entities on the planet. Lots of additional gains to be had there.

What? This such a lame political response devoid of any better alternatives. Show us numbers and propose an alternative that's better.

Please show us the sources that billionaires and the US military are the highest polluting entities on the planet. That's obvious bs propaganda.

>I wonder if all the men who have lowered sperm counts agree with you…

Your measure for whether we're doing better than the past is sperm count? Huh?

You seem to be suffering from something recently coined progressophobia. I get there are problems but this strange denialism and refusal to admit we've progressed at all is not only wrong, it's harmful to society as a whole.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by ghoward »

fzil wrote: post #312
ghoward wrote: post #272

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Fortunately, the claim the Israel is an apartheid state appears to be false, according to those who lived through apartheid. [1] [2] [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcEL-NlxBk0 [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocNttZV4G_0

to save everyone else a click, its PragerU bs.

How can it be bull crud if they are using the accounts of people who have actually lived in Israel?

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by brokenmachine »

CountDrewku wrote: post #320
developer93 wrote: post #298

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Not absolutely, but it can be a hell of a lot better than it is. We don't, for example need to have such a lot of disposable packaging, we don't need to farm the way we do etc

>We don't, for example need to have such a lot of disposable packaging, we don't need to farm the way we do etc Ok, innovate a way to ship items across the world while keeping them from spoiling, getting damaged and make it so they're received in a timely manner. I'd also like to see how you can feed an entire planet with 1st world standards and not farm the way we do. Just a hunch but my guess is you'll be no where…

>The only reason you're even able to sit around and consider things like this IS because we've innovated to the point that your base needs are met without you having to lift a finger.

I'm at work right now, as I am for at least 24% of the hours of my life.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by luffapi »

CountDrewku wrote: post #321
luffapi wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We've reversed a lot of that destruction in the past century. Not even close, where are you getting that from? > Unless you're suggesting we all go back to some sort of nomadic lifestyle? US car culture is the first thing I’d put on the chopping block. The US military and billionaires as a class are the two highest polluting entities on the planet. Lots of additional gains to be had there. I would classify very lit…

>Not even close, where are you getting that from? Seriously? I'm not gonna do your work for you but look up reforestation efforts, ozone hole closing, re-population of once devastated animals, pollution etc. I mean you'd have to be completely ignorant or purposely seeking a specific agenda to miss this stuff. Are you suggesting nothing has improved in the last 50 years and we're on a continuous decline? >US car cultu…

Ah so you don’t have sources.

I do though.

US Military: https://qz.com/1655268/us-military-is-a-bigger-polluter-than...

Billionaires: https://www.gq.com/story/billionaires-climate-change/amp

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by Siira »

aerique wrote: post #97
streamofdigits wrote: post #90

We have gotten to the point where the simple (and arguably essential) task of individuals learning about what the economy is producing is degenerating into a societal gangrene. No, this is not all the handywork of Zuck and the "don't be evil" company. All the conditions for their "success" have been engineered in the previous decades of the adoption and scaling of TV tech: The captive population of couch potato, over…

"Economic growth is not the solution: it is the problem." -- one single political party in the Netherlands that does not get enough votes

Easy to say for rich people in rich countries.

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Post by FooBarBizBazz »

germinalphrase wrote: post #243
southerntofu wrote: post #178

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Competition doesn't mean "having ideas" or going separate ways. "Competition is a rivalry where two or more parties strive for a common goal which cannot be shared" (wikipedia). For example, competition is when you keep millions of empty apartments to make sure everybody struggles and will pay more and do whatever you say to find a place to live. Competition is also when you teach children in schools that they should…

What are the limits to this abolition of competition? How could you possibly eliminate all zero sum games? Watching toddlers ‘compete’ makes me believe competition is very human and a natural extension of desire. How do you abolish desire?

> How do you abolish desire?

1. Create fear of the thing that would otherwise be desired. Associate it with badness. This is a slow but relentless form of operant conditioning, which can be done entirely using words and stories.

2. Create substitute and symbolic objects of desire, in order to redirect effort. The purest of these is money.

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Post by brokenmachine »

brokenmachine wrote: post #323
CountDrewku wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>We don't, for example need to have such a lot of disposable packaging, we don't need to farm the way we do etc Ok, innovate a way to ship items across the world while keeping them from spoiling, getting damaged and make it so they're received in a timely manner. I'd also like to see how you can feed an entire planet with 1st world standards and not farm the way we do. Just a hunch but my guess is you'll be no where…

>The only reason you're even able to sit around and consider things like this IS because we've innovated to the point that your base needs are met without you having to lift a finger. I'm at work right now, as I am for at least 24% of the hours of my life.

...and here I am at work again, lifting a finger 5 days a week.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by CountDrewku »

luffapi wrote: post #324
CountDrewku wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Not even close, where are you getting that from? Seriously? I'm not gonna do your work for you but look up reforestation efforts, ozone hole closing, re-population of once devastated animals, pollution etc. I mean you'd have to be completely ignorant or purposely seeking a specific agenda to miss this stuff. Are you suggesting nothing has improved in the last 50 years and we're on a continuous decline? >US car cultu…

Ah so you don’t have sources. I do though. US Military: https://qz.com/1655268/us-military-is-a-bigger-polluter-than... Billionaires: https://www.gq.com/story/billionaires-climate-change/amp

> If the US military were a country, its fuel usage alone would make it the 47th largest emitter of greenhouse gases in the world, sitting between Peru and Portugal.

You said largest so you were wrong. Try again.

The second link is absolutely laughable. Gee large industries create more carbon footprint! No shit, that has nothing to do specifically with billionaires. Try getting your news from somewhere else other than GQ.

GQ and QZ aren't legitimate scientific sources bud.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by luffapi »

CountDrewku wrote: post #328
luffapi wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah so you don’t have sources. I do though. US Military: https://qz.com/1655268/us-military-is-a-bigger-polluter-than... Billionaires: https://www.gq.com/story/billionaires-climate-change/amp

> If the US military were a country, its fuel usage alone would make it the 47th largest emitter of greenhouse gases in the world, sitting between Peru and Portugal. You said largest so you were wrong. Try again. The second link is absolutely laughable. Gee large industries create more carbon footprint! No shit, that has nothing to do specifically with billionaires. Try getting your news from somewhere else other tha…

We’ll, you provided no sources and no informed critique of my sources, so I’ll just take the win here.
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