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You could create certification tests for those as well - general knowledge test, creativity test, writing test, personality test
I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic or not. I can see it now: "I'm a certified Awesome Dude."
For Most People, College Is a Waste of Time
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We have those in some industries: It's how you get to be a plumber for instance.
We really need that in Programming!
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We really need that in Programming!
No, we don't. I don't want some guild or certification authority telling me I can't program for a living until I've done 2 years of "journeyman" programming and passed my licensing exams.
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I would go further to say that the current system is disadvantaging rich countries immensely. I typical person without a college degree is likely to think he shouldn't even attempt to seek work such as IT (it's for those college educated types), and instead heads into the local service economy (further depressing wages there), instead of earning money for the country in globally based economy.
The certification system he's talking about would massively accelerate global outsourcing of US jobs. ISO 9000 certification in the 80s and 90s played a huge role in sending US manufacturing overseas. People were reluctant to believe that factories in various second and third world countries could be just as good. Then the certs proved pretty well that they were! Same deal now with personnel. Employers are sometimes…
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It's written from that perspective because college degrees are used as a proxy for job training, and most people pursue them so they can get a better job, which makes the system broken. The other benefits of the college experience don't require college anyway, and are cost-prohibitive to a lot of people. I don't think he was arguing that nobody should do 4 years of college. Just that employers need a better vetting s…
From the article: "...bachelor's degree tells an employer nothing except that the applicant has a certain amount of intellectual ability and perseverance. Even a degree in a vocational major like business administration can mean anything from a solid base of knowledge to four years of barely remembered gut courses." So either the graduate is knowledgeable and the system did its job, or the graduate knows how to be a…
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#57Maybe they could call themselves the "Bene Gesserit?"
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#58The column seems to be entirely from the point of view of an employer looking to screen potential employees. Like it or not, college is about more than job training. For a lot of people the social life is a big part of it, the first part of life away from parents, but still with some security, and about intellectual exploration (answering the question - what exactly do I want to be when I grow up?). Perhaps none of t…
I think a little discussed reason college is such a big deal in America is because most communities are so socially and architecturally dysfunctional. Many colleges provide what a proper town/city is supposed to: public spaces and facilities, walkability, organizations with civic and social functions, etc. It's only because people graduate and go live in alienating suburban asteroid belts or in soulless political-machine big cities that they idealize college so much.
College isn't so great, it's just adult life in most of America sucks. But it's not like that every where.
p.s. The oft repeated "college rounds people out" line desperately needs data. I think it's a load of bullshit.
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We really need that in Programming!
No, we don't. I don't want some guild or certification authority telling me I can't program for a living until I've done 2 years of "journeyman" programming and passed my licensing exams.