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The elemental strangeness of foxes

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Re: The elemental strangeness of foxes

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>Even as I wanted to avoid it biting me, I wanted to feel its teeth. I wanted to be rejected by the wild. [. . .] For the blood it would draw from my hand to be evidence of the permanent barrier of strangeness, of human and animal, the line between fiction and reality, that existed between the two of us. I wanted to know a fox, and at the same time, to know that I could never know him. [. . .] The pain of being bitten and the joy of possibly knowing what it feels like to be bitten by a fox. Not only to see one, but to be marked by one.

Uh, yeah...

I’m pretty sure the fox took one look at the author and thought, “There’s no way in hell I’d bite that tripping hippie. Yuck.”

Re: The elemental strangeness of foxes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently the killing of multiple chickens in a coop is not arbitrary / vicious. Because food is scarce in the wild, if given the opportunity they will kill as many as possible and then bury them in caches so they have food for several days. Unfortunately (for them) when they kill multiple chickens in a coop they get interrupted by the owner so can't return - so it ends up looking like pointless cruelty.

I wonder if it doesn't serve them in another way, namely to deny competitors (especially other foxes) a ready meal. It might also be so that they can eat one chicken in peace and not get poked by the others! But yes, like orcas clearly playing with living, in-pain seals, or any number of other phenomena, nature can be quite cruel.

I wonder if its simply a case of "eyes bigger than the stomach". The fox gets over excited with a coop full of chicken and goes overboard as there's so much food. Similar to buying too much food or snacks when shopping hungry.

Re: The elemental strangeness of foxes

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Foxes are amazing animals. The disrespect they get for being pests and vermin is wrong. We destroyed their habitat. And I disagree with the Russian fox domestic program. Hunting them for sport is wrong and unfair although I would turn my head if it was seasonal and usage of inhumane methods were banned. As much I would love to own a fox which is legal I couldn't bare taking something away from wild nature. We struggl…

I knew of someone who had pet foxes.

Re: The elemental strangeness of foxes

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I’ve always liked foxes. I was an avid coyote hunter for years and used to call foxes in all the time. They’re hilarious because when they come smoking in for the kill and realize it’s a trap they try to act nonchalant and just veer off like “Oh, yeah, I wasn’t actually falling for that bro.” I had a big red Fox who lived in the woods next to my friend’s farm and he’d always come out at night when he heard me calling…

yeah they're nasty pieces of work sometimes as well. They slaughter wildly in chicken coop's. they often kill and eat just the tail and tongue of lambs in sheeping communities. but I can't help but love how sleek and beautiful they are, the noises they make and their playful natures.

Note that I have seen a chicken coop devasted by a dog in exactly the same way. It was not a pretty sight.

Re: The elemental strangeness of foxes

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Foxes are amazing animals. The disrespect they get for being pests and vermin is wrong. We destroyed their habitat. And I disagree with the Russian fox domestic program. Hunting them for sport is wrong and unfair although I would turn my head if it was seasonal and usage of inhumane methods were banned. As much I would love to own a fox which is legal I couldn't bare taking something away from wild nature. We struggl…

I knew of someone who had pet foxes.

Yeah, apparently they can be domesticated relatively easily, at least one generation at a time. My understanding is that the process has to be repeated with their offspring, so they aren't truly a domesticated animal (yet).

At least some sources say they make good pets... but probably not for people who already have house rabbits, I imagine.

Re: The elemental strangeness of foxes

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post #2

I’ve always liked foxes. I was an avid coyote hunter for years and used to call foxes in all the time. They’re hilarious because when they come smoking in for the kill and realize it’s a trap they try to act nonchalant and just veer off like “Oh, yeah, I wasn’t actually falling for that bro.” I had a big red Fox who lived in the woods next to my friend’s farm and he’d always come out at night when he heard me calling…

yeah they're nasty pieces of work sometimes as well. They slaughter wildly in chicken coop's. they often kill and eat just the tail and tongue of lambs in sheeping communities. but I can't help but love how sleek and beautiful they are, the noises they make and their playful natures.

That's because most chicken coops are notorious by its bad design. We shouldn't blame the fox for that. In some cases chicken would survive more time if left roost out of the cop. The weak point is the nest.

Not much people are grateful for all the rats and mice wiped for free by the foxes in any case. We maybe should start thinking more about it.

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