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The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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The idea that the entire psychiatric community wouldn't be completely on the side of the author is one of the reasons that I have such little faith in their field. The reason being is that the underlying condition could always be worked on after first taking the small, practical steps to dramatically reduce the impact of the problem. I have personally experienced situations like this and it was so frustrating until I…

The impact isn't the same, but I've been guilty of doing exactly the same thing with software bugs. "Sure, we could just do this little workaround and get you back up and running, but there's a reason for this and we would be better off in the long run investing in a real fix."

I do have a limit, at least, after which I'll go for the quick fix and then try to follow up with a broader investigation. Depends on how severe the issue is, too.

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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I heard/read a similar mental "hack" about folks who fear leaving things "on" when travelling. Take pictures with your phone of all the things just before you leave. They'd be easily available, verifiable evidence that the stove is off, all the doors are closed/locked, furnace set, water shut off, and so on.

level 2 of that game, tho':

"Is the list I made to know what to take pictures of complete? Did I really take pictures of everything? What about that thing I'm not remembering right now and wasn't on the list but I'm pretty sure I didn't turn it off, either ..."

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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The idea that the entire psychiatric community wouldn't be completely on the side of the author is one of the reasons that I have such little faith in their field. The reason being is that the underlying condition could always be worked on after first taking the small, practical steps to dramatically reduce the impact of the problem. I have personally experienced situations like this and it was so frustrating until I…

I’ve had the same problems with regular doctors and medical issues. A lot of my problems turned out to be a milk allergy.

Doctors are just tech support for the human body. They listen to your complaint and offer up their best guess diagnosis based on what's helped previous customers with the same symptoms, but they have limited information on the system they support, the documentation is spotty and sometimes contradictory, there's a ton of bugs, and they have no escalation path because the engineer who designed the system quit ages ago and left no contact info.

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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post #4

This is a great story. I know its not related but I can't help but feel a sort of analogy to engineering work: the tension between idealism and pragmatism. At a previous company our build times for a game client were around 5 minutes or so. Our tools team had planned some work to get this down but it kept getting pushed out. The tools weren't part of the client so I'm not sure they know how bad this was. Anyways, one…

It's totally related. There's the old urban myth about the "NASA Pen,"[0] which is a favorite of tech people (It isn't actually true, but it's a great story).

I have a similar apocryphal story that I use in design. I write about it here[1].

> For many years, I have heard stories about some architect – they never say who – that once designed an office park/university campus/government center, etc., and deliberately did not add any paved walkways. Instead, it is said he had the buildings completely surrounded by lawns. After a year, he came back, and paved the areas of these lawns worn thin by people taking the most effective routes around the buildings. He did this because he decided at the start of the project, he’d never be able to account for human nature, and it was his goal to serve the folks using the campus as best as he could. The users of his system would let him know, organically, how to “tune” it so it can best serve them.

Also, anyone that is familiar with the Granny Weatherwax character, by Sir Terry Pratchett, may remember that she practiced what was termed "Headology." That was sort of "practical" psychology, and it involved things like giving headless ghosts pumpkins, so they would stop moaning (actually, it was another character that did that -from I Shall Wear Midnight[2], but it was definitely Granny's "Headology").

[0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-n...

[1] https://littlegreenviper.com/miscellany/the-road-most-travel...

[2] https://www.studynovels.com/Page/Story?bookId=27327&pageNo=6...

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

#35
I had a weird tick as a kid where anytime someone said something to me I had to mentally adjust the length of the statement so the number of words was divisible by 5.

So for example if you said "Are you going to school today?" I'd add "my good friend, Will" in my mind.

It drove me nuts, but I was unable to stop. Then one day it just went away. Still have no idea what that was but it plagued most of my childhood. I remember when I noticed that I didn't have to do that anymore and it was probably the happiest I felt prior to my daughters birth.

Never told anyone about it before this comment. It's a strange thing to try and explain to someone.

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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I remember a panel on a news program years ago where the one guest was a psychologist who was treating "untreatable" drug addicts by getting them "hooked" on running or weightlifting or martial arts. They would stop drugs but would instead be doing martial arts for hours a day or running 20 miles every morning. Then he would start treating the addiction personality and causes, but in many cases the patients would just stop coming and live three or more hours of every day in the gym.

The other guests were various degrees of horrified.

His patients went from literally living on the street as heroin addicts to doing 3 hour gym sessions and holding down a job; and his peers thought he shouldn't be allowed to practice.

Recently I was reading a book on ADHD and the author was quite adamant that you could only be diagnosed with ADHD if your life was worse than "the norm". In this view, if you have symptoms of ADHD but can, for instance, hold down a good job then by definition you don't have ADHD. I deleted the book from my Audible account.

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

#37

This story sounds like it should be posted in the subreddit "and everyone clapped." Any therapist worth their salt would consider both practical solutions as well as treatment of the underlying cause. If your depression were triggered by job loss, they'd urge you to look for another job as well as figure out how to prevent/treat the depression itself. I'm skeptical that the other psychiatrists thought the practical p…

The writer is a well-known and well-liked psychiatrist/blogger who does not have a reputation for lying.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_Star_Codex

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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post #3

While reading, I was thinking about telling her to get rid of the hairdryer, but bringing it with you is way smarter. If there was no hairdryer to worry about the mind would likely search for something new to obsess over.

A bit like a lightning rod. The OCD is going to fixate on something... give it a target you can control

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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post #4

This is a great story. I know its not related but I can't help but feel a sort of analogy to engineering work: the tension between idealism and pragmatism. At a previous company our build times for a game client were around 5 minutes or so. Our tools team had planned some work to get this down but it kept getting pushed out. The tools weren't part of the client so I'm not sure they know how bad this was. Anyways, one…

It's totally related. There's the old urban myth about the "NASA Pen,"[0] which is a favorite of tech people (It isn't actually true, but it's a great story). I have a similar apocryphal story that I use in design. I write about it here[1]. > For many years, I have heard stories about some architect – they never say who – that once designed an office park/university campus/government center, etc., and deliberately di…

There's a subreddit for this: /r/DesirePath

Re: The Hair Dryer Incident (2014)

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post #4

This is a great story. I know its not related but I can't help but feel a sort of analogy to engineering work: the tension between idealism and pragmatism. At a previous company our build times for a game client were around 5 minutes or so. Our tools team had planned some work to get this down but it kept getting pushed out. The tools weren't part of the client so I'm not sure they know how bad this was. Anyways, one…

I’m a big fan of these kinds of improvements. They can be a bit dangerous politically though. 5 minutes might be something the manager can get traction to implement a fix to get it below 1 minute build times. At 1 minute the manager may never be able to make a political argument to improve.

This may also be why the manager chastised the person fixing this. Such a drastic improvement can completely undermine any efforts to make even bigger fixes, as well as make the manager look foolish that they couldn’t make these improvements already.

I tend to believe the perfect is the enemy of good, but I’ve certainly worked in some orgs where I might take an improvement like this to the main champion of the problem first and ask if it’s a useful solution. I might even be willing to shelf the solution if I can be convinced it’s not in the long term best interest of the org. If I’m not, though, I’d likely become a champion of this short term pain relief knowing that things may not ever have much chance to get much better.

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