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Re: Note Taking in 2021

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Post by gofreddygo »

emptyparadise wrote: post #102
gofreddygo wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When not near a keyboard, use paper. When near one, use plain text. For your sanity, keep metadata embedded in each file. I keep k:v pairs. One per line. e.g "topic: D3", "subject: scales", "context: Side Project" Use grep, awk (whatever). Slice, group, dice, join, merge, backup as and how you want. A bash-like shell is the only dependency. Check into git regularly. Some scripts I use ## group by topic. search for li…

What if I want to include an image in my notes?

be creative?

  image: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WLA_metmuseum_Venus_and_Adonis_by_Peter_Paul_Rubens.jpg
  image: screenshot.png

Re: Note Taking in 2021

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Post by gofreddygo »

Multicomp wrote: post #115
emptyparadise wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if I want to include an image in my notes?

Onenote has no markdown, no electron, not just plaintext, has images

OneNote, Apple Notes, Bear, Google Docs do everything.

Except being functional on my locked down work devices and VPN network.

Re: Note Taking in 2021

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Post by pps »

ednico wrote: post #65

Logseq is one I highly recommend: http://logseq.com/ Outliner, local file storage, API plugins, todo's and loads more. On top of everything, it is free.

> it is free

I would like to point out that this is temporary, for people who don't want to pay at all for note taking https://discuss.logseq.com/t/what-is-logseqs-business-model/...

(And yes, Logseq is great, couldn't agree more)

Re: Note Taking in 2021

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Post by pps »

ntaso wrote: post #96

I dumped all note-taking tools and just use Sublime. I took the idea of timestamp-based ids from Zettelkasten and simplified it even more. My setup now is: Create text file named `YYYY-MM-DD Title of the Note.txt`. Save to a folder. Write freeform. I think it's important to understand one concept of note-taking: You can either spend more time organizing to spend less time retrieving information later. Or you can spen…

I'm also using Sublime, but with https://github.com/renerocksai/sublime_zk that makes it much smoother

Re: Note Taking in 2021

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Post by arata »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #144

I believe the most important question regarding personal knowledge bases is how to make them social. In grad school I was for a year part of a small study group. We shared notes, on paper and aloud. It made each of us far, far better at the subject than we could have been on our own. And we were at most 7 people (sometimes only 3). When developing Hode[1], and when helping develop Semantic Synchrony[2], I imagined so…

> Brandon Toner on Twitter[3] even introduced me to a hashtag for them ...

Is it #digitalgarden?

> I believe the most important question regarding personal knowledge bases is how to make them social.

AFAIK note taking apps often have a feature to share notes, if that counts, e.g., Obsidian (view-only), Roam (view and edit), Notion (view, edit, and comment), and so on. With sharing and comments enabled, you can even use Google Docs as your PKB (some people actually do this), given that you don't need fancy features like bi-directional links.

Just like regular blogs, some gardeners also implement a social protocol called Webmention [1]. It's more like a pingback in WordPress than a collaboration tool though.

> A good shared knowledge base would by contrast also resemble Twitter -- but more organized, more navigable.

I would love to see this implemented in existing apps. The current solutions I know either involve 3rd party plugins (e.g., hypothes.is), or you have to self-hosted it yourself (e.g., cactus.chat, based on Matrix protocol).

Another alternative, which I learned from visiting other gardeners [2], is that you can link the edit button in your note to a GitHub PR. It's not friendly to non-developers who visit your garden, but this is better than nothing IMO.

> In practice the personal knowledge bases I've seen look much more like silos.

5 months ago there is a Show HN about a decentralized knowledge graph called Agora [3]. The cool thing is, everyone is part of one large knowledge graph, which means nodes (notes) from multiple users can be aggregated around [[topic]]. I hope the project is still alive..

ps. I'm sorry if I'm not making any sense.. I only started researching on this topic recently to create my own PKB (I literally published my first note couple days ago [4]).

[1] https://www.w3.org/TR/webmention/

[2] https://github.com/MaggieAppleton/digital-gardeners

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25573523

[4] https://arata.page/notes/Web/Safari/WWDC21/

Re: Note Taking in 2021

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Post by brocket »

hobabaObama wrote: post #73
petersellers wrote: post #41

Whenever one of these threads pops up I'm always surprised at the lack of responses for OneNote. For me it's pretty much perfect - it syncs with all my devices, supports the iPad pencil, supports OCR and text searching in images, has native apps, and it's free.

One small correction. OneNote is free till you expire your free OneDrive storage space. After that we need to pay for online storage.

Syncing with OneDrive is an optional feature. You can save notebooks locally to use up as much space as you want without paying.

Re: Note Taking in 2021

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Post by brocket »

petersellers wrote: post #41

Whenever one of these threads pops up I'm always surprised at the lack of responses for OneNote. For me it's pretty much perfect - it syncs with all my devices, supports the iPad pencil, supports OCR and text searching in images, has native apps, and it's free.

I really enjoyed using OneNote on Windows or Mac but no native Linux client turned out to be a deal breaker for me. Web app is sluggish and limited, then using it through Wine was pretty buggy. I finally gave up and switched to a platform agnostic solution.

Re: Note Taking in 2021

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Post by jrm4 »

jpindar wrote: post #151
jrm4 wrote: post #18

Gotta get in the greatest (IMHO of course.) https://zim-wiki.org I'm continually baffled at how the rest of the world hasn't discovered this, but it could be because I sort of live at the margins of "ultra geek" and "normie." Local, self-hosted "wiki-like" tool. You write notes, it saves them, supports links and todos and calendars etc. Tons of plugins for math, git, etc etc. The killer aspect, I think, though. Any h…

> Any hypothetical "grandma" can open it up and use it immediately Is this necessary? Would it be acceptable to say "Any hypothetical can open it up and use it immediately"?

I kind of see what you're saying, usually I say grandpa. But overall, no, I don't think it's a big enough deal to worry about.

Re: Note Taking in 2021

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Post by jrm4 »

japanuspus wrote: post #46
jrm4 wrote: post #18

Gotta get in the greatest (IMHO of course.) https://zim-wiki.org I'm continually baffled at how the rest of the world hasn't discovered this, but it could be because I sort of live at the margins of "ultra geek" and "normie." Local, self-hosted "wiki-like" tool. You write notes, it saves them, supports links and todos and calendars etc. Tons of plugins for math, git, etc etc. The killer aspect, I think, though. Any h…

Have you tried TiddlyWiki [0] which is running the brainfck.org Zettelkasten mentioned in the article. Seems like a very similar concept. I am intrigued by the concept and thinking about trying it out, so any input on picking one or the other would be great. [0]: https://tiddlywiki.com/

I have. And where it just didn't do it for me is how everything's locked up in that file. Again, the killer part for me is that I can use basic Linux file tools on it easily; e.g. I can either use the internal search, which is good, but also grep.
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