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Note Taking in 2021

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Re: Note Taking in 2021

#162

Whenever one of these threads pops up I'm always surprised at the lack of responses for OneNote. For me it's pretty much perfect - it syncs with all my devices, supports the iPad pencil, supports OCR and text searching in images, has native apps, and it's free.

I said this uptopic, but I've tried to love OneNote a few times in the past partly out of interoperability / possible collaboration and partly out of popularity, but I just can't get there.

One of the key things that kills it for me is that I really need my notetaking tool to be smart. I tag lines as "to-do", and my tool of choice can assemble an agenda of items i need to accomplish in a metadocument, even if they're spanned across multiple files.

OneNote, frustratingly, HAS a way to tag something as a Todo, but it's just decoration. There's no provision for showing you all the Todos in a document in a summarized view or whatever, or at least none I could find.

I'm willing to admit that my need here to comingle todo items and notes is perhaps idiosyncratic, but fortunately it's not TOO niche because it's basically the foundational idea of Orgmode.

(....and that's the story of how Ubermonkey became an emacs user.)

Re: Note Taking in 2021

#163

The way I classify things is as follows: 1. Notes 2. Tasks These are not mutually exclusive. And the fact that they are not mutually exclusive is, in my opinion, one of the major obstacles in being able to develop a really good process for taking notes and then operating on those notes. I frankly don’t care much for any note software out there because the note taking part is generally easy so I just default to Apple…

I'd also want to integrate notes & TODO - but also time-tracking, i.e. the ability to "click" on any note/TODO and log time against it. Perhaps a TODO can be a note with a tag like "#todo"/"#todo-important"/etc, and time-logs can be child notes..

You can do this with Org-mode in emacs! It will look something like this:

    * project
    ** DONE investigation
    ...
    ** TODO implementation [2/3]
       DEADLINE: 
       :LOGBOOK:
       CLOCK: [2021-06-17 Thu 13:30]--[2021-06-17 Thu 16:03] =>  2:33
       CLOCK: [2021-06-17 Thu 10:30]--[2021-06-17 Thu 13:04] =>  2:34
       :END:

    do X and Y, be careful about Z

     - [X] part 1
     - [X] part 2
     - [ ] part 3
And you can quickly show the time spent on each entry:

    #+BEGIN: clocktable :scope subtree :maxlevel 2
    #+CAPTION: Clock summary at [2021-06-17 Thu 16:06]
    | Headline                 | Time   |      |
    |--------------------------+--------+------|
    | *Total time*             | *7:40* |      |
    |--------------------------+--------+------|
    | project                  | 7:40   |      |
    | \_  investigation        |        | 2:33 |
    | \_  implementation [2/3] |        | 5:07 |
    #+END:

There are obviously all sorts of key shortcuts to manage this, see the wiki [1] for details.

  [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/org/Clocking-Work-Time.html

Re: Note Taking in 2021

#164

I am back to Simplenote after trying too many alternatives. nvAlt on Mac and Simplenote app on iPhone. Bear would have been fine if it wasn’t subscription based and allowed me to choose a sync option like dropbox or iCloud sync and let me have local files. FSNotes has years , at this speed, ahead of it. Everything else is just sad Electron - web apps masquerading as native apps. No I don’t like Joplin interface. Also…

I was a big fan of Notational Velo, and then nvAlt, and the discovery of Deft mode made my migration to emacs/org possible.

I wouldn't worry about Apple deprecating Notes or its sync -- both have been part of the iOS ecosystem since day one, haven't they?

Re: Note Taking in 2021

#165
I'm surprised that Joplin hasn't really been mentioned here.

It supports hierarchical or tag based notes + to-do lists, in plaintext/markdown/wysiwyg. It supports syncing to several providers, and I sync with my personal webdav server. It has vi/emacs keybindings and supports external editors. It also has a mobile app.

So I use that for digital notes, and a nice leuchtterm grid journal for physical notes. I generally do language studies in the physical journal and use the digital notes more for references.

Re: Note Taking in 2021

#167

I am back to Simplenote after trying too many alternatives. nvAlt on Mac and Simplenote app on iPhone. Bear would have been fine if it wasn’t subscription based and allowed me to choose a sync option like dropbox or iCloud sync and let me have local files. FSNotes has years , at this speed, ahead of it. Everything else is just sad Electron - web apps masquerading as native apps. No I don’t like Joplin interface. Also…

I was a big fan of Notational Velo, and then nvAlt, and the discovery of Deft mode made my migration to emacs/org possible. I wouldn't worry about Apple deprecating Notes or its sync -- both have been part of the iOS ecosystem since day one, haven't they?

I don’t remember the versions but at one point I wanted to stay back on an old OSX version and a newer iOS and the Mac was just a version behind.

They made entire iCloud suite and related apps on the two incompatible.

As for emacs/vim I have given up by now :) Not my cup of tea.

Re: Note Taking in 2021

#168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Bear now support tables? I tried it and liked it, but the lack of tables was a deal-breaker (and replies to my questions make it clear that it wasn't a priority) So I'm using VS Code with the Journal plugin, Markdown notes, and ripgrep for searching. Works fine for me. For more fancy stuff I use DevonThink. (And I too have never got into org mode, despite several tries)

Table support is in their current beta version.

Ah, so the new version will not be the simple minimal app they are now I guess.

Re: Note Taking in 2021

#169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Any hypothetical "grandma" can open it up and use it immediately Is this necessary? Would it be acceptable to say "Any hypothetical can open it up and use it immediately"?

No, it wouldn't be, but that's because it's literally an entirely different idea. You're looking for offense or problematic language where none exists.

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