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Re: Technology Saves the World

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You've at least twice on this story borrowed from Hobbes to dismiss posts expressing what amounts to, "maybe our relationship with technology is a bit complex, and a mixed bag, and worth some examination and consideration", as if you were responding to posts advocating full-on anarcho-primitivism. Why?

Technology enabling unsustainable practices goes all the way back to the bow and arrow. Not just the last couple centuries.

Ah—you object to framing it as a new problem, then? That makes sense.

Re: Technology Saves the World

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(With apologies to those that have heard it before) Bucky Fuller (an engineer) calculated that we would have by sometime in the 1970's all the technology necessary to create a kind of secular utopia if we applied our knowledge to solving our problems efficiently . We could each work for two years and then retire having paid for the rest of our lives during that two-year career. This happened more or less right on sch…

The only reason we're not all chilling out and relaxing is the "rat race".

We're not competing with the animal kingdom anymore. We're competing with other humans.

Good luck getting all humans to stop trying to dominate/outdo each other. It only takes one and the race is off again.

Re: Technology Saves the World

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Don’t get me wrong, I love technology. But the other edge of the sword here is that the ability to text and Zoom and YouTube and DoorDash etc. is the only reason that lockdowns were even possible in most of the world. Without these tools, it would have unconscionable for policymakers to try to put millions of people on house arrest, especially if their class’ own livelihoods were liable to be as damaged as physical small business owners and workers. Andreessen is treating lockdowns as an inevitable natural force here rather than a policy decision with particular tradeoffs. In their own (unavoidable) way, these tools enabled lockdowns just as much as they helped people during them.

Re: Technology Saves the World

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post #63

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It's your right to be pissy. Let's drop the "global" then. I counted 18 wars with upper deaths range above 1M between 500BC and 1800AC. There were 29 of them after 1800. I didn't bother to sum the casualties. Full list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll

There are a lot more people today, too. Of course war death tolls will be larger.

this got me curious as I wasn't sure how much is "a lot more". Turns out the population in the year 0 was 190M so there are 40x more people now [0].

Anyway, according to the previously cited wikipedia article, the Three Kingdoms War, the deadliest ancient conflict, took toll of 40M people. but that happened over 96 years. That's 416k per year and 0.2% of global population at that time.

WW2 caused 14M deaths per year which was "just" 0.07% of global population.

Not sure how accurate these numbers are.

[0] https://ourworldindata.org/world-population-growth

Re: Technology Saves the World

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>> The best jobs have always been in the bigger cities, where quality of life is inevitably impaired by the practical constraints of colocation and density. This has also meant that governance of bigger cities can be truly terrible, since people have no choice but to live there if they want the good jobs.

This reads as if it's written by someone whose idea of a "big city" is San Francisco. SF is uniquely terrible among large American cities. Even other American cities aren't great compared to their international counterparts.

Density, even in those other not-that-great American cities, also affords a quality of life not possible in smaller areas. Easy access to cultural institutions, quality restaurants, music venues, events, public transit, and other things only possible with sufficient density.

As a parent of a small child in the city, I'm accustomed to having many other parents and children nearby to meet at the many area parks and playgrounds. In every suburban or small town playground we've been to, I've been struck by the absence of others. I'd much rather share playgrounds and have plenty of other children for my child to interact with than be limited to day care and the back yard, which seems to be the case in less-dense areas.

I also thoroughly enjoy and appreciate being able to walk and bicycle for errands and amenities, which is not possible in many less-dense areas.

It's possible a sufficiently dense but small city or town could provide these same qualities of life, but these communities don't seem to exist in America. Smaller areas just by their nature spread out, and even some larger cities aren't dense enough and are still car-dependent.

Re: Technology Saves the World

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post #9

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hmm, I'm not sure I agree with all points made in this post, but surely two things can be true at once? In other words, yes technology introduces problems (possibly the pandemic, as you stated), but might it not also provide the remedy?

If you want to get super pedantic about it.. "Technology" doesn't do anything. Humans do stuff, using technology. Some of it good, some of it is bad. So it's really up to us, humans, to save the world. Or destroy it.

I don't want to get super pedantic about it.

Re: Technology Saves the World

#97
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to get super pedantic about it.. "Technology" doesn't do anything. Humans do stuff, using technology. Some of it good, some of it is bad. So it's really up to us, humans, to save the world. Or destroy it.

I don't want to get super pedantic about it.

You might be in the wrong place then. ;-)
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