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Tim Cook: Sideloading is “not in the best interests of the user”

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Re: Tim Cook: Sideloading is “not in the best interests of the user”

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Post by throwzaway20102 »

jwalton wrote: post #9
throwzaway20102 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only reason this is happening is because Epic and the like want to keep 100% of revenue. These corporations are the only ones to benefit from this. Most if not all apple/iOS users are happy with the closed garden approach apple has setup. Aside from a handful of nerds who don’t want to pay a an apple premium to put their crappy home brewed app on their iPhone at the risk of making the entire system vulnerable for…

> These corporations are the only ones to benefit from this. To give you a specific example, if I wanted to install a gameboy emulator on my iPhone, I wouldn’t be able to through the App Store as emulators are generally disallowed, but if I could side load then I could install an open source one. This would benefit me, and wouldn’t benefit any corporations.

You are like 0.0000000001% of the usecase. You might benefit from playing retro Pokémon but Epic will benefit at least $10b more than you.

Also, you have the most innovative APIs available that you can use to make apps that can change lives or change the world and you want to make a fucking game boy emulator?

Android this way ———>

Re: Tim Cook: Sideloading is “not in the best interests of the user”

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Post by ashneo76 »

Sideloading isn't in the best interests of apple.

Anything apple says is an attempt to keep it's shady business of a gold mine

I am still running windows phone and that is thanks to side loading and replaceable batteries. Tim Cook can go to hell with his lies

Re: Tim Cook: Sideloading is “not in the best interests of the user”

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Post by mthoms »

throwzaway20102 wrote: post #11
jwalton wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These corporations are the only ones to benefit from this. To give you a specific example, if I wanted to install a gameboy emulator on my iPhone, I wouldn’t be able to through the App Store as emulators are generally disallowed, but if I could side load then I could install an open source one. This would benefit me, and wouldn’t benefit any corporations.

You are like 0.0000000001% of the usecase. You might benefit from playing retro Pokémon but Epic will benefit at least $10b more than you. Also, you have the most innovative APIs available that you can use to make apps that can change lives or change the world and you want to make a fucking game boy emulator? Android this way ———>

Society and the environment would benefit enormously by being able to repurpose old iPhones and iPads. Side loading would make these devices significantly less likely to end up in landfill.

That benefits everyone except corporations.

Re: Tim Cook: Sideloading is “not in the best interests of the user”

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Post by jerojero123 »

throwzaway20102 wrote: post #11
jwalton wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These corporations are the only ones to benefit from this. To give you a specific example, if I wanted to install a gameboy emulator on my iPhone, I wouldn’t be able to through the App Store as emulators are generally disallowed, but if I could side load then I could install an open source one. This would benefit me, and wouldn’t benefit any corporations.

You are like 0.0000000001% of the usecase. You might benefit from playing retro Pokémon but Epic will benefit at least $10b more than you. Also, you have the most innovative APIs available that you can use to make apps that can change lives or change the world and you want to make a fucking game boy emulator? Android this way ———>

This is a very bad argument. The benefit of others, in this case, has nothing to do with your own benefit.

Its true, epic might profit for several millions, so what? How does that affect me or other users?

Apple keeps acting like the user is somehow this baby that needs to be protected, we're not. We're adults that can make our own decisions.

Android and iOS are completely different operating systems, iOS is better for privacy but for example if something like fdroid existed on iOS I could compliment the apps on the appstore with free software one that I know also guarantee my privacy. BTW, open source apps have to go through hoops to be published on the appstore because of their rules and regulations.

Re: Tim Cook: Sideloading is “not in the best interests of the user”

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Post by hndamien »

throwzaway20102 wrote: post #8
mindcrime wrote: post #4

Meh. Allowing me to have more control over the apps loaded / running on my phone is absolutely in my best interest. This stuff is exactly why I totally reject everything Apple and their "walled garden" ecosystem. I'll make my own decisions, thank you.

Why don’t you use an android phone?

Or Librem?

Re: Tim Cook: Sideloading is “not in the best interests of the user”

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Post by throwmedaddy19 »

dlivingston wrote: post #6

> That would destroy the security of the iPhone and a lot of the privacy initiatives that we've built into the App Store, where we have privacy nutrition labels and App Tracking Transparency... these things would not exist anymore. Trying to give “Tim Apple” the benefit of the doubt, I seriously cannot see how his comments jive with reality. If you give me the option to side load apps (and hell, make it as obscure as…

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Re: Tim Cook: Sideloading is “not in the best interests of the user”

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Post by throwmedaddy19 »

mthoms wrote: post #13
throwzaway20102 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are like 0.0000000001% of the usecase. You might benefit from playing retro Pokémon but Epic will benefit at least $10b more than you. Also, you have the most innovative APIs available that you can use to make apps that can change lives or change the world and you want to make a fucking game boy emulator? Android this way ———>

Society and the environment would benefit enormously by being able to repurpose old iPhones and iPads. Side loading would make these devices significantly less likely to end up in landfill. That benefits everyone except corporations.

Yea like how it’s happening for cheap android devices and PCs?

Oh … wait.

Re: Tim Cook: Sideloading is “not in the best interests of the user”

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Post by moistly »

When I need a device I can completely control, I buy a device that I completely control. It’s not like there’s a shortage of options.

I would like to continue to be able to purchase a device that is well locked-down. If only for the benefit of my parents, who aren’t to be trusted to judge the privacy and security limitations for any given software.

Though, to be honest, I quite enjoy having next to no concerns about my iPhone and whether some malicious software is going to screw me over.

Re: Tim Cook: Sideloading is “not in the best interests of the user”

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Post by throwmedaddy19 »

mthoms wrote: post #13
throwzaway20102 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are like 0.0000000001% of the usecase. You might benefit from playing retro Pokémon but Epic will benefit at least $10b more than you. Also, you have the most innovative APIs available that you can use to make apps that can change lives or change the world and you want to make a fucking game boy emulator? Android this way ———>

Society and the environment would benefit enormously by being able to repurpose old iPhones and iPads. Side loading would make these devices significantly less likely to end up in landfill. That benefits everyone except corporations.

You wanna help society and the environment?

Go. Fucking. Vegan.

Asking our corporate overlords to help save the earth is the most idiotic thing I’ve read her. Almost as dumb as looking at Hollywood to teach morals or accurate history

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