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Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils

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Post by chanc3e »

orra wrote: post #332
chanc3e wrote: post #266

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Sadly this is true. The BBC is staffed with some truly incredible talent and some of the output is world class - however, the news sub-desks are more or less a few freelancers copy/pasting from Reuters/syndicated news at this point, and articles are certainly not thoroughly vetted. Sheer inertia and brand cachet are carrying the BBC. I'm not sure which outlet is entirely trustworthy in the UK currently.

> I'm not sure which outlet is entirely trustworthy in the UK currently. Ahahahahaha. In the past I would have said The Guardian is okay, but right now they really hate trans people.

The Guardian seem very lost: chasing the same slice of advertising pie as DM/Telegraph.

Channel 4 news are a small team with a heck of a punch - but there is not a lot of daily output.

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

Koshkin wrote: post #419
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #138

I like Windows as an end-user OS. Works with all my equipment. The only horribly annoying feature is the lack of borders around windows which sometimes make it very, very difficult to distinguish two overlapping windows. I am a heavy user of Linux in the back (all my servers and containers run some kind of Linux since '93) and I desperately tried to use it on the desktop but is it a big pile of crap. SO I will live i…

LMGIFY: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10...

Thank you for your kind "Let Me Google That For You" - but have you actually read what you pointed to?

The first reply does not make sense - it has nothing to do with borders (just trying to differentiate - very poorly - windows though some limited color changes.

The next few ones are "give me borders back", and the other solution does not work. But, if someone actually reads it, they will discover that what the author had in mind is to add shadows in windows in the performance section.

Which again does not have anything to do with borders.

Voilà, voilà.

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Post by EvanAnderson »

artificialLimbs wrote: post #421
EvanAnderson wrote: post #123

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At least until Microsoft wraps-up the Open Business licensing program you can still acquire LTSC thru that program. You'll have to work with a reseller. It's a bit of a pain, but it's not too bad. I've used Dell and CDW in the past. The minimum volume license buy is 5 licenses. Any good reseller will sell you 1 copy of LTSC and 4 of the cheapest SKU in the catalog (usually $5-10 / ea) to get your volume license contr…

Im unconcerned about the calls but this doesn’t sound feasible for >500 seats.

LTSC isn't intended for day-to-day PC users. MSFT would happily sell you licensed for 500 seats. I have had Customers with >500 seat Open License contracts. (It's all pretty meaningless now since the program is effectively dead anyway...)

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Post by EvanAnderson »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #422
artificialLimbs wrote: post #421

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Im unconcerned about the calls but this doesn’t sound feasible for >500 seats.

If you have that kind of volume can't you buy LTSC from relatively normal channels?

The Open License program is a "normal" channel. Many small and medium businesses acquired their licenses for MSFT products that way.

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Post by phendrenad2 »

tpxl wrote: post #86
tapoxi wrote: post #9

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Why? The Linux kernel is GPL and that move would anger a lot of Windows driver developers who need to support a shim or release their source.

You can have proprietary drivers even though the Linux kernel is GPL.

That's legally debatable and while nvidia just goes ahead and does it, not all companies are as willing to step into legally-murky territory.

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Post by philliphaydon »

neatze wrote: post #253
bserge wrote: post #180

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I like reading these kinds of comments, but then I snap back to reality. It's easier to make Windows 10 behave than make Linux actually work properly beyond a browser and an editor.

this is just false.

It's sort of true.

For example, I have a 3700x / 5700XT computer. Windows 10 runs flawlessly without issues. Ubuntu, or any flavour of Ubuntu, runs like garbage. I have to fix screen tearing, slow boot, sleeping. Then from a clean install, open up firefox, and it crashes multiple times per day. It's not even close to stable.

Yet I run any flavour of Ubuntu on my Intel laptop and it's flawless.

Setup Manjaro on this same desktop, and it works flawlessly, yet on the same laptop if I use Wayland, it's completely broken.

Yet all the same hardware, never had an issue with Windows.

So my point is: Everyones experience is different. For some people they can set it up and fix it to be flawless, others just want to set it up and use it, not fiddle around.

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Post by tatersolid »

ketzu wrote: post #285
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #138

I like Windows as an end-user OS. Works with all my equipment. The only horribly annoying feature is the lack of borders around windows which sometimes make it very, very difficult to distinguish two overlapping windows. I am a heavy user of Linux in the back (all my servers and containers run some kind of Linux since '93) and I desperately tried to use it on the desktop but is it a big pile of crap. SO I will live i…

I feel the same way. I switched my work machine to windows after I couldn't get displayport chaining to work consistently under linux and had to plug in my monitors in a specific order after booting. Windows is by no means perfect. A bit overly provocative: With windows, if something is bad it is microsofts fault, with linux it's a user error. I don't like ads in the operating system (but I see it is hard to find a p…

> With windows, if something is bad it is microsofts fault, with linux it's a user error.

Is this your own statement? I will use it frequently from this day forward, but want to attribute correctly.

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Post by ketzu »

tatersolid wrote: post #457
ketzu wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the same way. I switched my work machine to windows after I couldn't get displayport chaining to work consistently under linux and had to plug in my monitors in a specific order after booting. Windows is by no means perfect. A bit overly provocative: With windows, if something is bad it is microsofts fault, with linux it's a user error. I don't like ads in the operating system (but I see it is hard to find a p…

> With windows, if something is bad it is microsofts fault, with linux it's a user error. Is this your own statement? I will use it frequently from this day forward, but want to attribute correctly.

I am at least not aware I got it anywhere, so maybe it is my own. And it is a bit hyperbolic, but I feel it resembles the attitude I often encounter.
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