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Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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This is my struggle. But also, nobody likes to focus on something uninteresting. What's the difference between ADHD and just not wanting to do it?

Not wanting to do it and not being able to do it are two different things. To an adhd person boring tasks aren't just boring to do, they are impossible to do even if they were paid a million dollars to do it.

I call it not being able to put one foot in front of the other. You will find all kinds of distractions to try to not think about it, because to think about it is almost physically painful.

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It's important to note that an ADHD diagnosis does not necessarily end with stimulant medication. Stimulant medication can be helpful for some people, but it's not the only way to treat ADHD. Having an ADHD diagnosis could help you choose appropriate therapy methods, self-help practices, and other self-improvement measures. Of course, an ADHD diagnosis isn't necessary to begin implementing better time management prac…

> dosing stimulants sporadically ("as needed" isn't standard practice), Interesting, I take adderall "as needed" and my doctor is fine with it. He prescribed it for daily use but said I can take it as needed.

My doctor actually prescribes a regime of holidays from the stimulants. It is becoming a fairly common practice.

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Throwaway since I'll be discussing some fairly personal topics. I was diagnosed over a decade ago at the age of 19 and have been in treatment ever since. The changes as a result of getting medication and attending therapy have be profound and decidedly mixed. One thing I'm just going to say upfront is that if anyone reading this thread decides to seek treatment, please don't solely rely on medication. The medication…

*1) Massively increased libido. The stimulants can increase sex drive, but can also make orgasm more difficult while also sometimes making it more difficult to maintain an erection. While these last two can be frustrating on a personal level, the hyper sexuality can be quite destructive when not kept in check.*

I had this on Adderall, I was switched to Desoxyn and had no issue with it. On Adderall even medicine like Viagra would not improve the side effects. That was a show stopper for me, and really frustrating that it actually increased drive.

*2) The hyper focus aspects of ADHD are now basically on all the time. Medication is less a guided missile and more a laser. Instead of taking it and 'magically' getting things done, your attention is now dialed into whatever you point it at. This can be extremely productive, or not. I have less 'lost days' than I did before seeking treatment but those days now have a greater intensity.* I would agree with this description for me as well, though I can choose where the focus goes and I can choose when to disengage. To me it had been a net plus.

*3) It can be easy to get into stimulant fueled cycles of self-destruction. I need to be very disciplined about getting enough food and sleep. The drugs make it easy to shrug off a night or two of little sleep. But using drugs to ignore my body leads to much worse ADHD symptoms then if I hadn't been taking the drugs at all.*

Agreed 100%, it is easy to fall into a cycle of well I can take my second dose later and squeeze some more hours out of the night. As far as food, that is the one really bad side effect of Desoxyn, Adderall suppressed my appetite, Desoxyn completely eliminated it, I can go days without eating and never have the urge to if I do not monitor it. At first I did not care because I was about 60lbs overweight, I am now slim could loose 10 more and be fit, but I am certainly not overweight anymore. I view this as a net positive given the long term ability to manage my weight, but now I stay on top of it.

*4) There is a distinct difference in my personality on days when I take my drugs and days I do not; see Good Changes, point (1). This can be hard for other people, especially romantic partners, to deal with.*

This is the one I hear from people but, the only thing my wife has said about me, is when my first dose kicks in, my feet hit the floor and I am going. I used to take an hour to get ready in the morning, I would do one thing, sit down, do another sit down. It took an hour to feel like I was just slightly awake.

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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ADHD is not a disability. It's an evolutionary set of traits. It is covered under the Big Five.

In Sweden at least it is classified as a disability, because whether or not it's a evolutionary adaptation, people that present typical ADHD traits are functionally disabled in modern society. Society should change to accommodate these traits, but we can't expect people with those traits to live in misery until then.

Yeah not to sound like a "deep" 15 year old but I think being able to function in our modern society is much more unnatural than the behaviors associated with ADHD. But since is the society we're in, having it really is a disability.

TL;DR: "we live in a society"

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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I have ADHD diagnosed by a neuropsychiatrist and I've tried a handful of medications now. Currently I have Concerta, methylphenidate, and only on the largest dosage allowed do I even see any effects. The effects were underwhelming to say the least. I literally could procrastinate with more focus, but my thoughts were just as scattered and I noticed myself veering off topic faster than I'd normally do. I guess I, like…

One of the things I learned pretty quickly is that it gave me the ability to focus better on anything, but my lack of prioritization skills became more noticeable. So yeah, it helps you focus, but you still have to practice picking what you should be focusing on. For what it's worth, I started by trying ritalin and didn't like it. Like you, small doses of methylphenidate did the trick, but affected my mood too much.…

Yeah I definitely need to work on how I actually work and create a mindset and space that supports that. But for me, only the maximum dosage of methylphenidate had any effect. I've heard of people getting the gurn on it and obviously it's a decent amount of speed for anybody, so I haven't felt comfortable continuing on it.

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I’m 36 and about two years ago I stumbled into reading about the experience of what it’s like to have ADHD. As resistant as I was (and I was very resistant to the idea that I could have ADHD) I couldn’t ignore the fact that what I was reading was like it was written about me. The only moment in my life where I’ve had such a striking sudden feeling of understanding myself is when I realized I was gay (I was probably 10 or 12.)

I ended up seeking out and went through the entire process of neuropsych evaluation, never having been in therapy or anything similar in my life. The experience felt thorough and science based.

The outcome was inconclusive. I scored abysmally on many parts of the evaluation, and my history was pretty typical of someone with ADHD - constant academic struggles, a hard time building interpersonal relationships, trouble managing my emotions… amongst other things.

The counter-points they offered - on paper I’m in a successful career, have a successful marriage, and I’ll be the first to admit that I’m obsessively organized in some areas of my life (probably to a fault. As a child I definitely was not.) They chalked my struggles up to anxiety and I pretty much stopped pursuing the idea that I might have ADHD.

Stumbling across a lot of people here who seem to have had similar experiences I’m back to wondering if it’s something I should explore again. I feel like every day I’m struggling through things that come easily to a lot of people, putting in 3x the time for 0.75 the output. I also know that I’m someone who, for whatever reason, has a high tolerance for un-ideal situations.

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It's been about 9 years and I'm still on the original dose of the first medication my psychiatrist prescribed. I'm really glad I managed my pride enough to make that first appointment. - Slept better. No more tossing and turning for an hour or two before I fell asleep. - Ate more regularly. My stomach starts to hurt if I wait too long between meals. - Remembered people's names when meeting them, at least to the point…

What medication were you prescribed if you don't mind answering?

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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What meds worked for you?

Keep in mind that different ADHD medication might have completely different effects for different patients, and that what works for me might not work for you and vice versa. That being said, I started with two doses of Ritalin (Methylphenidate) with 30mg in the morning and another 20mg past noon. And then switched to Elvanse(Lisdexamfetamine) with a single 30mg for the entire day. I'd describe the difference between…

This is interesting, I used to take Methylphenidate twice daily (Ritalin LA) but stopped due to increasing side effects. A few years back I was able to switch to Lisdexamphetamine. I realized that one tablet a day was not enough for me, even upping my dose didn't help; it didn't last longer than 6 hours for me..

I think unfortunately that some of the marketing material and advertised duration by Shire isn't telling the whole story w/r/t the drugs duration.

Is it healthy for me to basically have amphetamine in my body 24/7? Probably not, but it has certainly helped me the 5 or so years I've been taking them.

I can be a bit more strict &straight to the point now than before, but I don't find myself behaving very differently now vs before. I'm on the autistic spectrum for sure, and with ADHD as well it's hard to judge if it's just me or the medication.

Lastly, if I had gotten the opportunity to take medication to help the symptoms earlier I probably would have had a better education and been better off than I am today. Way too much time at school was wasted just looking out the window and doing other things rather than paying attention, and yes it wasn't becuase I wasn't interested per se, it's just that putting effort into focusing short term in order to get the gratified response of a good education (years later) is not something someone with ADHD can easily do.

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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I’d like to see more studies done with the effects of psychedelics on ADHD. I’ve personally had greater focus control and mental clarity through them (specifically LSD and moreso mushrooms, although DMT did give me a pretty large six month break from my symptoms). However there is virtually no information regarding this out there. Good luck going into most ADHD communities and bringing them up

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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Anyone reading this should be extremely skeptical of internet strangers recommending drugs that gave them "superpowers", changed their life, etc. Taking these drugs will make anyone feel more focused, motivated, etc because these drugs are strong stimulants that cause euphoria, focus, and bursts of energy. Anecdotally, I've seen a huge uptick in posts of the format "how an ADHD diagnosis changed my life" on Reddit, T…

Different drugs have different effects on different people. People with ADHD are often calmed down by stimulants, at doses that would have “neurotypicals” bouncing off the walls.
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