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Experts Weigh in on Pentagon UFO Report

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Re: Experts Weigh in on Pentagon UFO Report

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This reminds me to The X-files quote/theme/leitmotif "I want to believe". I am prone to think that this again some kind of gov mass psychology Rorschach experiment, where they say if we show you this image and if we say it is flying bunny how many times do we need to show and repeat the same until you start believing it is a flying bunny ... By the way I am not saying other sentient being do not exist in the universe…

So it’s about control?

There are four lights!

Re: Experts Weigh in on Pentagon UFO Report

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post #19

Given that people (and governments/military) have believed in many phenomena that were later found to have a mundane explanation I'd expect reports like this in a world where there aren't aliens flying around. That, and it making no sense for us to only see evidence for them on earth but not when looking at space, and that there's very few objectives they can be achieving with big ships flying around here for decades…

Teleport? Wormhole? Advanced tech that makes them pop up in our space? I doubt it. But not sure how else we have those things caught on military radars and pilot cameras that are not always explainable by optical phenomenon related to orbital objects or natural atmospheric phenomenon.

People thought there's no explanations for all the ghost ship reports until we figured out Fata Morgana, too. The space of mundane explanations is large even if unknown.

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#53
post #7

Why is it mostly Navy pilots reporting the phenomena and there are not any data in the visible spectrum? Because the Navy has Project NEMESIS[0] in the works whose goal is to spoof instrumentation. 0: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29505/the-navys-secret...

Recently civilian pilots have spotted similar objects and also the US military doesn’t do live tests without coordination and planning because people have died in the past when that was tried.

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post #19

Given that people (and governments/military) have believed in many phenomena that were later found to have a mundane explanation I'd expect reports like this in a world where there aren't aliens flying around. That, and it making no sense for us to only see evidence for them on earth but not when looking at space, and that there's very few objectives they can be achieving with big ships flying around here for decades…

I like to imagine that if aliens have visited us, its for a kind of tourism or safari. Us seeing them is the pilot (some underpaid, overworked tour guide) making a mistake.

Travelling for many, many, many years just to see a bit of the planet from the window (and not even things like cities) is something I'd consider unlikely as the primary objective of visiting aliens.

Re: Experts Weigh in on Pentagon UFO Report

#55
One thing I would like to point out is that it's not just the US government that is paying attention to these things. Many countries like China[1], France[2], the UK[3] have been investigating UFOs and find them credible.

I personally didn't find any of the UFO stuff believable until the US Navy/Pentagon stuff came out which is very credible.

At this point it is almost undeniable that there is something strange going on in the skies. Whether it is aliens or not remains an open question.

[1] https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3136078/chin...

[2] https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29755919

[3] https://www.livescience.com/uk-ufo-reports-soon-released.htm...

Re: Experts Weigh in on Pentagon UFO Report

#56
> unclassified version of the report is expected to be released later this month

so has the report been released? i would like to read it rather than continuous speculation about its contents. also, i'd love to see a leak of a more classified version of the report (if one exists), just to see what they consider sensitive information and not. the more info the better really.

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#57

It’s interesting to understand the motivation behind all this. Specifically: US military/intelligence/congress has historically treated UFO activity as highly classified. That’s now changed. Why is that? I don’t know. One candidate explanation: 1. Historically, some amount of “UFO” activity was actually classified, known US military/Intelligence programmes. Making the information public would compromise those program…

Combine #2 and #3 and a culture of reticence amongst military and civilian aviation observers to report strange things, it makes sense to laugh less at them and be more encouraging.

Those sailors and airmen are intelligence assets.

Re: Experts Weigh in on Pentagon UFO Report

#59

It’s interesting to understand the motivation behind all this. Specifically: US military/intelligence/congress has historically treated UFO activity as highly classified. That’s now changed. Why is that? I don’t know. One candidate explanation: 1. Historically, some amount of “UFO” activity was actually classified, known US military/Intelligence programmes. Making the information public would compromise those program…

That's what I'm trying to figure out too. The narrative is the biggest change so far. Low quality videos and eye witness reports aren't exactly new.

Sam Harris, who I consider trustworthy, was given a heads up about what's to come:

"I got contacted by somebody who gave me a heads up with respect to all of this happening and he more or less told me listen, when this other shoe drops you’re going to be in the position of having to acknowledge that all the experts are on the same page, and there’s just this blanket declaration that we’re in the presence of alien technology, and we don’t know what to make of it. So prepare your brain for that and figure out what you’re going to do."

https://samharris.org/podcasts/252-alone-universe/

Re: Experts Weigh in on Pentagon UFO Report

#60

It’s interesting to understand the motivation behind all this. Specifically: US military/intelligence/congress has historically treated UFO activity as highly classified. That’s now changed. Why is that? I don’t know. One candidate explanation: 1. Historically, some amount of “UFO” activity was actually classified, known US military/Intelligence programmes. Making the information public would compromise those program…

I'm probably going to get voted down for saying it, but Fox plays a lot of UFO/Bigfoot type of stuff. Clearly it gets rating, and the previous President got a lot of his ratings from the same audience as Fox so maybe there is some strategic play towards the Fox/Trump crowd.
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