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Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by ericol »

julianpye wrote: post #8

Every morning I ask my three-year old if she dreamt something nice. "No", she said a few weeks ago, "just ads".

I have an 8 yo that _really_ wants to do videos. Just this morning, she helped her mother cook the meal, but she wanted to roleplay as if she was recording a YT video like the ones she watches.

It was honestly hilarious - I was HW just across a door - but at the same time frightening when you think about how much this new media permeates our society.

P.S.: Having already lost the war with my daughters from a previous marriage, we are fighting tooth and nail with this one regarding technology access. But boy, even for 2 grown ups it is really hard to fight a kid in this war.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by DocTomoe »

ericol wrote: post #11
julianpye wrote: post #8

Every morning I ask my three-year old if she dreamt something nice. "No", she said a few weeks ago, "just ads".

I have an 8 yo that _really_ wants to do videos. Just this morning, she helped her mother cook the meal, but she wanted to roleplay as if she was recording a YT video like the ones she watches. It was honestly hilarious - I was HW just across a door - but at the same time frightening when you think about how much this new media permeates our society. P.S.: Having already lost the war with my daughters from a previous…

Kids want to emulate what they see, especially in "fun" entertainment. My grandfather wanted to become a circus clown. My dad talked about western-style indigenous Americans. My He-Man/GI-Joe-drenched childhood was filled with dreams of becoming a warrior/soldier. And today the heroes of "fun" entertainment are YouTubers and Twitch streamers.

The permeation you experience has been happening for a long time, only now you notice it, because the world she wants to emulate is borderline alien to you.

Don't worry, most of the times, it is a phase.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by galuggus »

sydthrowaway wrote: post #13

Has anyone noticed 2-3 ads per YouTube video (especially midstream)? It’s getting ridiculous. There’s got to be a stop to this madness.

I made fuckOff.yt to make people feel better about this. Ublock or pihole are better solutions though

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by kamray23 »

sydthrowaway wrote: post #13

Has anyone noticed 2-3 ads per YouTube video (especially midstream)? It’s getting ridiculous. There’s got to be a stop to this madness.

Yes. The answer is to use Patreon and sponsorships for the most part to guarantee an income as opposed to the fidgety monetisation on YT, and to use an adblocker like uBlock Origin to get rid of the YT ads.

On Android, check out https://vancedapp.com/. On iOS, the largest similar jailbreak project just shut down due to being bullied. Good work, jerks.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by Red_Tarsius »

They are kind of doing it already e.g. I hate when ads exploit classical music for trivial purposes. Whenever I hear Libiamo ne' lieti calici now my mind instantly fills with pizza ads. And once an association is made, it doesn't go away. Ads attach themselves to positive memories like parasites. Whenever you think back to your first kiss, a nice family moment, a cherished memory of going out with friends – here they are.

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Post by IvyMike »

Leela : Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?

Fry : Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no siree.

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Post by kamray23 »

BrianB wrote: post #14
sydthrowaway wrote: post #13

Has anyone noticed 2-3 ads per YouTube video (especially midstream)? It’s getting ridiculous. There’s got to be a stop to this madness.

For $15/mo I don't see any YouTube ads

Also works as opposed to donating to individual Patreons and such. I still don't like a cut being taken by YT because I disagree with their business practices though. Sponsorships are the future of online media creation, I guess.

The YT ads are obviously dealt with through an adblocker.

Re: Researchers fear a scenario in which smart speakers feed sleepers subliminal ads

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Post by littlecranky67 »

sydthrowaway wrote: post #13

Has anyone noticed 2-3 ads per YouTube video (especially midstream)? It’s getting ridiculous. There’s got to be a stop to this madness.

That was absolutely predictable. Just my own anectodal evidence: through my life, ads always became more present, never less. No matter if i.e. ad-financed TV (they started with a single block of 4-5 ads in the late 80s in a standard 90 minute film) to sports (just check a video of a soccer game of the 80s to the how much white space was left on their shirts) the internet etc.
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