All holidays are fucked up.
Senate Unanimously Approves a Bill to Make Juneteenth a Public Holiday
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#52As long as slavery is still legal and well and alive and kicking in US prison system (thanks to 13th amendment) gestures like this won't mean much.
Prison is meant to be a deterrent to crime, don't do the crime if you're not prepared to do the time. Last I checked no one is rounding up innocent people and sending them off to the gallows.
Have you ever heard the term "driving while black"?
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#53This is a good symbolic gesture, but making election day a federal holiday equivalent in standing with Christmas would have real and positive impact. But the latter never draws the votes in congress, so that should tell us how meaningless this vote truly was.
MLK’s birthday should be changed to Election Day. No extra day off, and everyone goes into the polls reminded of his legacy.
And we shall make it a hate crime if anyone used his dead-birthday instead of his now only legitimate new birthday.
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#54This is a good symbolic gesture, but making election day a federal holiday equivalent in standing with Christmas would have real and positive impact. But the latter never draws the votes in congress, so that should tell us how meaningless this vote truly was.
I think you really need to put your idea in perspective. Christmas is barely the last hold out for holidays where the people who need time off to vote (retail, food service, other low wage high hour jobs) get at-least a bit of time off and that is being eaten into each year. Do you really think a federal holiday for voting would do anything but start a whole new round of election day door busters that make it even ha…
I don't think any of your reasoning makes sense here. It's weirdly aggressive and is sort of a think of the children, but with poor people.
But your conclusion feels like the right call. A weird 180 imo.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assume they are making it a federal holiday not unlike Columbus Day or Veterans Day. If you work in the private sector the chance you have those days off is fairly low. [Edit: I am not saying that Juneteeth won't get special treatment. See my nested commented in this thread.] State governments may or may not recognize a given federal public holiday.
I guarantee you all private companies will make it a day off.
Replying to my sibling comment from @paxys:
True, though Juneteenth may be different here. It could be considered the most basic signal of whether a company cares about Diversity & Inclusion. Of course this itself would be meaningless, but perhaps eventually the lack of this holiday may say something about that employer.
P.S.: The big tech company I work for has more federal holidays off, but Columbus Day and Veterans Day are not among them.
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#56As long as slavery is still legal and well and alive and kicking in US prison system (thanks to 13th amendment) gestures like this won't mean much.
Prison is meant to be a deterrent to crime, don't do the crime if you're not prepared to do the time. Last I checked no one is rounding up innocent people and sending them off to the gallows.
When you checked last time did you also check Reagan and the 80s? US prison system is and has been private for years and that makes the entire "pipeline" from streets all the way to prison private.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
To say it is Unanimously Approved is a rather big stretch then.
Most Senate business is unanimous consent. I don't think it's misleading.
That’s fine, I’m from the UK and didn't get that the Senate uses words to mean completely different things from the actual meaning in certain contexts. We do it too, I’m certain.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> thanks to 13th amendment Same with housing segregation and the Equal Credit Opportunity Act's exceptions: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1691 Just like the 13th still allows slavery for prisoners, the ECOA still allows discrimination if the person can't afford the home, incentivizing the system to make housing as expensive as possible: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/OEHRENWBSHNO
What are you talking about? Are you saying housing is expensive is a discrimination?
When it's coupled with an economy that disenfranchises certain groups over others, yes, exactly. Like how America offshored all the manufacturing jobs that used to provide for the middle class.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guarantee you all private companies will make it a day off.
Very unlikely. Even large corporate employers don't give time off for most federal holidays. I have a cushy tech job and still have to work on MLK day, President's Day, Veteran's Day, Columbus Day.
Well, check my prediction 1-2 years from now. Your company will give you a day off on both MLK and Juneteenth. On Juneteenth 2023 you'll have a day off (this and next year it falls on the weekend)
The only exception to this would be companies (and schools) that will use Juneteenth as an education day instead of giving the day off. (I hope companies don't do that. If I want to get educated I have books and the Internet)
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#60"Republican legislation to limit teaching a historically accurate picture of U.S. history in public institutions has advanced in some half a dozen states." Mind-boggling propaganda.
I really encourage everyone who disagrees with this comment to reflect on it. The reporter just threw out, as though it was obvious, a partisan stance on an issue of great controversy completely unrelated to the topic of the article. A key component of media literacy is recognizing biases in your sources, so you have to be consciously aware of these kinds of things, or you'll be systematically misled.
For example, one question you should be asking is, why does the article contain a quote only from one side of the aisle? I think a lot of people are likely to conclude that only one side thought it was important, and that's not so - there was strong bipartisan support for this bill.