>And Microsoft says its successor will represent one of the "most significant updates" to the OS in the past decade.
Yeah that's not ominous at all.
Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils
#352It'll probably just be "Windows" and will continue to be updated every 6 months like Windows 10 currently is. I think this was the intention with Windows 10 anyway, hence the "last version of Windows" stuff. I wonder if this next version of Windows is an attempt to throw off some of the bad rap Windows 10's gotten with the "forced updates", unpopular Start menu design, ads on the lock screen, bundled shitware games,…
I've especially not enjoyed Windows occasionally hijacking the post-login screen to try to convince me to enable Cortana or whatever. The most frustrating thing is the only options when presented with the window were "Continue" or "Remind in 3 Days", rather than "Fuck Off". This abuse of user agency & consent is disgusting and ubiquitous in big tech. Video games are the only thing keeping me on windows, plus last tim…
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Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils
#353For naming: I would suggest just calling the next version "Windows" with no other modifiers.
I think it was a good call handling Windows 10 long term as free updates. I assume they will do the same for the next iteration.
Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils
#354Honestly, HN may want to just consider banning any site that runs this news article from being posted on HN, because this claim is basically proof they did not do even cursory research before posting. Here's the 2015 story covering this date announcement, which bears no relation to recent rumors at all: https://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/20/microsoft-to-support-windo...
I don't see anything inaccurate in the story. It seems to reach all the most reasonable conclusions give the current EOL date for windows 10 and the event in less than 2 weeks that will announce the ”biggest change to windows in a decade”.
Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils
#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pass. Windows 10 is just so much better than 7. I still don’t get why people don’t move on. I’m happier having window 10 which has never crashed on me vs 7 which did it weekly.
OS stability is not the thing that people are concerned about when criticising Windows 10. What has made me turn away from windows is the complete lack of trust I have that the OS will respect my privacy.
My privacy, and my time.
No, I don't want your ads. No, I don't want your nagging. I want you to shut up and leave me alone. You're a tool that I bought, not my mother. I don't need you to nag me or give me advice.
Related gripe: When it wants you to do something, it offers you two options, "Yes" and "Ask me later". Conspicuously missing: "No, and never ask me again". It won't let me say no, just later. Grr.
Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils
#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've been using Linux on-and-off since the fall of 1993 and I've learned that the best way to use Linux is to pick the most popular distribution and then do as little customization as possible. You still will probably have to wipe and reinstall from scratch every five years, but that's not a Linux-only problem.
That's also been my strategy. I use Ubuntu and I don't mess with the configuration. Printers, scanners, nvidia graphics cards, dual monitors have all been a huge source of issues for me. Then a lot of stuff is just glitchy and fixing it is a pain. For some reason QT from apt was completely messed up for me, so I had to compile and install it myself, which was non trivial.
My non-customization strategy extends to basically not connecting printers and scanners, not using anything other than basic video modes, and I've never even tried multi-monitor setups.
Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils
#357It'll probably just be "Windows" and will continue to be updated every 6 months like Windows 10 currently is. I think this was the intention with Windows 10 anyway, hence the "last version of Windows" stuff. I wonder if this next version of Windows is an attempt to throw off some of the bad rap Windows 10's gotten with the "forced updates", unpopular Start menu design, ads on the lock screen, bundled shitware games,…
> I wonder if this next version of Windows is an attempt to throw off some of the bad rap Windows 10's gotten with the "forced updates", unpopular Start menu design, ads on the lock screen, bundled shitware games, etc.
Always, always, follow the money.
> "forced updates"
The Windows security model is fundamentally flawed in the internet age. You should not need to reboot to update important files (until recently Adobe Reader would require full OS restarts for some updates; the fact that this was even allowed by the OS was a flaw in itself). People hate forced reboots, so they would just delay them indefinitely. Unpatched systems would get hacked, Microsoft would be blamed for it, reputation loss, money lost.
> unpopular Start menu design
They tried to merge desktop and mobile OSes to save development money and to migrate desktop users to mobile, to make more money.
> ads on the lock screen
Money. I assume, lots of it.
> bundled shitware games
Money. Again, probably lots of money.
TL;DR: These things will become worse and worse, not better.
Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils
#358>> Windows 10 was released in July 2015 and dubbed "Windows as a service" Can we please have 7 back, with its complete lack of built in ads, dark patterns ramming the Microsoft browser down your throat, telemetry everywhere (the calculator, really?), changes for the sake of showing that some manager did something rather than functionality (Rename this PC -> Rename this PC (Advanced))? Windows 10 still regularly shows…
Windows 95, Windows XP and Windows 7 were the best.
You missed Windows 2000! I actually really liked it. Since it wasn't as consumer focused, there were occasional issues with GPUs/games, but for the most part it was really solid.
Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils
#359>> Windows 10 was released in July 2015 and dubbed "Windows as a service" Can we please have 7 back, with its complete lack of built in ads, dark patterns ramming the Microsoft browser down your throat, telemetry everywhere (the calculator, really?), changes for the sake of showing that some manager did something rather than functionality (Rename this PC -> Rename this PC (Advanced))? Windows 10 still regularly shows…
I agree, try to play solitaire on win 10.
I had forgotten. So many clicks to get started and flashy things and "XP". Ugh.
Re: Windows 10 to be retired in 2025, as new OS unveils
#360Earlier quoted context omitted.
4 GB, especially if you don't have an SSD, isn't really enough for Windows 10. > I installed Ubuntu I did this once and regretted it. Except for OS itself, nothing quite worked reliably, and you're basically the only person who can help them if it has problems.
Worked fine for my case, no problems were reported.
They probably just stopped using those devices, use their smartphone for everything, and just don't complain to you anymore because you're the weird condescending techie.
I'm only half joking here :-p