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Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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I imagine most of the stories you'll hear here are going to talk about how transformative a diagnosis was and the immense positive change most people have felt after starting medication. I do think this is probably the most common experience but my personal experience is a lot more mixed, and my relationship with my ADHD diagnosis and medication is complicated.

To start with, it wasn't a surprise when I was diagnosed as an adult. Teachers suggested I get tested for ADHD throughout my entire childhood but my parents held off since I wasn't a disruptive student, did well academically, and had often voiced an interest in joining the military and a childhood diagnosis of ADHD could potentially be disqualifying.

Ultimately though my goals changed and ended up going to graduate school with an aim to study cognitive science. That's when I decided to get tested, and not surprisingly, I was diagnosed with ADHD predominately inattentive subtype and prescribed Vyvanse. The change was profound. Before medication I would start books and never complete them, but suddenly I was finishing several books a month. I found keeping tack of things and cleaning and organizing my environment became second nature where I had struggled deeply with those things before. It also lead me to a career in tech. Prior to starting medication I had always had an appreciation for formal systems and logic, but Vyvanse super-charged that. I was suddenly able to deeply engage with math and formal logic in a way I hadn't been able to before because of my lack of focus. I became interested in software development. Taking Vyvanse and writing code became probably my favorite activity, and it's because of medication and my ADHD diagnosis that I ultimately became a software developer. I excelled at coding because I loved doing it. I would pop a Vyvanse and code for hours. Ultimately however, it became the only thing I really enjoyed. I would take an extra pill to stay up late and finish tasks, or get work done on a side-project. I ended up taking more than prescribed and I would run out before my refill was available leading me to have huge surges of productivity at the beginning of the month and huge periods of inactivity at the end when I was out of pills and suffered rebound effects like a complete inability to focus and extreme fatigue from not sleeping or eating correctly while on meds. In the end I realized it was also starting to take a toll on my personal relationships since I was living in my head all of the time not giving my live-in girlfriend nearly enough attention and instead just working and coding. So I decided to quit. After quitting my productivity took a hit, but ultimately I was able to reach a decent level of performance, though no where near what I had been doing previously. But I realized I was no longer deeply engaged with my work and I ended up transitioning careers from software development to becoming a sales engineer/solution architect.

Now, several years after quitting, I'm much happier. My live-in girlfriend is now my wife and I have a much better work-life balance. I'm still a bit of a workaholic, but I can disengage and maintain a better balance. Working as a sales engineer is also a really nice spot for my ADHD mind as constantly jumping between tasks and moving between technical and non-technical activities keeps me stimulated. I could never have done this job while on Vyvanse, as the focus I got from the meds would actually make it difficult for me to effectively move between so many different events in a day. Of course, I also can't code like a used to, but I do still enjoy engaging deeply with technical topics of interest. The odd reality for me though is that without that diagnosis and the medication I never would have been able to find a role like the one that I have now, which is such a good match for my unmedicated brain. I was able to derive a foundational knowledge about tech and computer science that I use today because of medication, and I don't know exactly where I would be if I hadn't gone down that road initially.

Looking back it's not too surprising I ended up abusing a prescription. Substance abuse disorder is a common comorbidity for people with ADHD and while that's often attributed to self-medication, I don't think that was the case for me. I just like altered states. I experimented with a range of drugs in college but it's easy to put up boundaries around things like that when you know it's recreational. When you're using a prescribed medicine it's much easier to justify the behavior. I think most people who are prescribed stimulants will take them correctly and will likely see a benefit from doing so. I don't think that's an option for me though and I've found more success building a life compatible with my condition rather than trying to fight it. There was a now deleted site called Quitting Adderall[1] that shared other people's similar experiences and it really resonated with me when I was considering the change.

That said there's no obligation to take stimulant medication if you do pursue a diagnosis, and I wouldn't tell you not to try stimulants if you think there could be benefit. I would just advise you to monitor yourself if you do take them, especially if you have a personal or family history of substance abuse.

1. https://web.archive.org/web/20210125224905/http://quittingad...

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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Living in Europe, my perception (AKA: anecdotal / unscientific / non-measured) is that most of the ADHD-diagnosed people I know live in the US, while I only know one European person in my network who received similar diagnosis from a professional psychiatrist. Counterintuitively, I know way more European people than Americans, which makes my perception feel even more skewed. I very well know that my sample(ing method…

I’m American in the tech industry. A majority of my close friends and I are diagnosed with ADD (I count 4 off the top of my head). Some people on my work team are open about their diagnoses as well.

It was difficult for me to admit to my family, friends and colleagues that I was being medicated for ADD. It took me four months before anyone besides my wife knew. The reason I came out with it is because some of the struggles reared their heads again. I realized that the people around me who have struggled with similar problems might also need a sympathetic ear, as I do.

Ultimately, my hesitance to discuss my diagnosis is due to fear of judgement (will people think I’m lazy or a druggy?) or fear that people may begin attributing my successes to the drugs.

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which raises another question: - How bad can it be, if it stays undiagnosed?

My wife was diagnosed with ADD (ADHD-I) at 20 (no points for H at all, literally none). When all stimuli hit you at the same level it's really tiring. Someone clicking their pen, bird chirping outside, someone coughing in the hallway or the classroom next to you, someone picking his nose in the corner of your eyes etc. She isn't able to filter them at all. I've come home to the place being flooded because she ran a b…

She sounds lucky to have someone that would take the time to understand her experience. Good job man.

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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Have been taking Strattera for a few months and wonder how many years of my life I would have not wasted if I had been diagnosed with ADHD earlier in my life. I just turned 40 and I never thought I had ADHD until recently. Before I just thought my lack of attention on things was just the price of being a 10X on productivity (and I was a little arrogant because of it). The reality was that I chose to put my time on ta…

Did you ever experiment with Adderall, Vyvanse or Ritalin? How did you end up with Strattera? I’m trying to triangulate a course for myself and still can’t pull the trigger on any of these for fear of side-effects or dependence.

The doctor recommended that I tried Strattera first and see if worked before trying stimulants. Atomoxetine is one pill per day and works 24 hours. But doesn’t work for everybody and some people have some undesired side-effects. I had some of the “undesired side-effects” in the beginning but they went away after a few days. Also, in my case, it took 20 days until I felt that it was working. I noticed it started working one day after a looked back at one situation where I would normally get stuck and dread and it had gone as without any issue.

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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Anyone reading this should be extremely skeptical of internet strangers recommending drugs that gave them "superpowers", changed their life, etc. Taking these drugs will make anyone feel more focused, motivated, etc because these drugs are strong stimulants that cause euphoria, focus, and bursts of energy. Anecdotally, I've seen a huge uptick in posts of the format "how an ADHD diagnosis changed my life" on Reddit, T…

I've been over a magnitude more productive for many years thanks to medication. That it can't have massive long term impact is just nonsense. It doesn't make focusing trivial, but it makes focusing possible and that is all I need. If I was diagnosed earlier I'd not have wasted a decade of my life, but at least I can do stuff now.

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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My daughter was diagnosed with dyslexia three years ago and then at the onset of at home learning late last spring we realized something else was up. After neuro testing she was diagnosed with ADHD. She's on a daily dose of Focalin and the difference is night and day when she's on/off it.

During this time of getting my daughter tested and researching the subject I realized I have many of the same symptoms she does. My wife for years has thought I have ADD which I would casually brush off since I was (and am) a successful electrical engineer. But the WFH was a real struggle for me and my focus and I think I was able to mask it for years. So I went through a full neuro evaluation and it turns out I don't have ADHD just slow processing. I struggle to really dig in and get started on a task for longer than 10-20 minutes. So after talking with my doctor I started taking Amphetamine Salt (aka Adderall).

I do notice a difference on and off the drug. On it I can sit and focus for long stretches of time. It is not a "miracle drug." I still struggle at times with getting started on a task. It won't help the what do I work on first problem. But once that decision has been made I can sit and flat grind through stuff. I don't normally take it on the weekends.

The neuro eval was good to help me better understand my brain and why I do certain things and so it helps me know what to work on. I recommend getting it. Think of it like any other diagnostic tool that a Dr. has (ekg, colonoscopy, etc..) - it just gives you more information on your body.

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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post #107

Anyone reading this should be extremely skeptical of internet strangers recommending drugs that gave them "superpowers", changed their life, etc. Taking these drugs will make anyone feel more focused, motivated, etc because these drugs are strong stimulants that cause euphoria, focus, and bursts of energy. Anecdotally, I've seen a huge uptick in posts of the format "how an ADHD diagnosis changed my life" on Reddit, T…

The original poster is in therapy, so presumably there is something going on that he or she is unhappy with.

Re: Ask HN: How did an adult ADHD diagnosis help you?

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post #107

Anyone reading this should be extremely skeptical of internet strangers recommending drugs that gave them "superpowers", changed their life, etc. Taking these drugs will make anyone feel more focused, motivated, etc because these drugs are strong stimulants that cause euphoria, focus, and bursts of energy. Anecdotally, I've seen a huge uptick in posts of the format "how an ADHD diagnosis changed my life" on Reddit, T…

As as person who got diagnosed with ADHD as an adult and looked back to a life of potential wasted, and while I don’t agree with calling the benefits of any drug “superpowers”, I can understand why some people would. I exercise almost every day, meditate, eat and sleep well and yet, it was a pill that made the biggest difference in treating my difficult on keeping focus.
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