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>> net drain on a country it isn't even strictly part of Not quite: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_fiscal_balance
London and the City of London are different entities.
Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't have to sell out to a big US company, so it's worth pausing to ask how we've reached the situation you described.
The issue is that there are a bunch of big is companies with way too much cash who can buy any potential competitor. I do not feel it matters much how they got that big. What we instead need to limit is their ability to buy competitors.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
>How about actually supporting the European Tech industry instead of just adding endless bureaucracy? Why do you make it sound like they don't? The EU invests massive amounts in technology (in regards to its paltry investment budget, but that's another debate). One does not prevent the other. And calling regulations against clear abuse "endless bureaucracy" is insidious at best.
And calling regulations against clear abuse "endless democracy" is insidious at best. Well, GP wrote "endless bureaucracy" not "endless democracy", unless the comment has been edited. And that, IMNSHO as someone who has founded tech businesses here, is entirely fair criticism. The environment created by all those regulations is insanely hostile to tech entrepreneurship, and it's not as if many of those regulations ar…
yup.
Many different rules in eu countries, fscked up tax rules for companies trading with foreing customers, high taxes for relatively well paid tech workers, and high cost of entry into the business is killing european businesses.
Even starting a business is hard... I hear a lot of people from USA who (eg.) find a old t-shirt printing press in a yard sale, and start their own t-shirt printing business, fill out some forms, sell 7 tshirts in two years, mostly to family, and then stop doing it. Just being able to letally sell a t-shirt in many eu states will cost you thousands and thousands of euros, where it's just not worth it to start. Wanna make an app by yourself and host the backend on a $5 digitalocean VM? Sure... but do it for free. Want to earn something? If you have just a few dollars of income, it's not worth it... you need a lot of users paying you a lot of money to pay the government fees, even if you work for free.
Re: Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling
#104How about actually supporting the European Tech industry instead of just adding endless bureaucracy? Ban Oracle and Microsoft from public procurement and start supporting the European equivalent of Baidu or Yandex. With ARM (prior to the acquisition), Linux, MariaDB, etc. - Europe was in a great position to do this. We need to stop this digital colonialism where massive, monopolistic US corporations pay no taxes in E…
What the EU should do is play to it's strengths as the last organizations left that takes the regulative role required by smiths model of capitalism serious and start enforcing transparency, choice and interoperability on the digital field, with the same zeal it treats similar regulation in the agricultural and manufacturing sectors.
Re: Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling
#105How about actually supporting the European Tech industry instead of just adding endless bureaucracy? Ban Oracle and Microsoft from public procurement and start supporting the European equivalent of Baidu or Yandex. With ARM (prior to the acquisition), Linux, MariaDB, etc. - Europe was in a great position to do this. We need to stop this digital colonialism where massive, monopolistic US corporations pay no taxes in E…
Neither of those are EU either, are they? Baidu is Chinese and Yandex is Russia (admittedly they are in Europe, but not part of the EU). How is that any different, from the EU's perspective, to supporting Oracle and Microsoft? Unless I'm misinformed, which is entirely possible.
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> the British countryside has some of the poorest areas in western Europe All rich countries have impovrished areas that have been left behind. > It is amazing to see how Brits outside of (hell, even in) London live, The same can be said for California, New York, Florida, Dublin, Paris, Barcelona, etc.
Swiss don't
Re: Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't have to sell out to a big US company, so it's worth pausing to ask how we've reached the situation you described.
The issue is that there are a bunch of big is companies with way too much cash who can buy any potential competitor. I do not feel it matters much how they got that big. What we instead need to limit is their ability to buy competitors.
Re: Big tech face EU blow in national data watchdogs ruling
#108How about actually supporting the European Tech industry instead of just adding endless bureaucracy? Ban Oracle and Microsoft from public procurement and start supporting the European equivalent of Baidu or Yandex. With ARM (prior to the acquisition), Linux, MariaDB, etc. - Europe was in a great position to do this. We need to stop this digital colonialism where massive, monopolistic US corporations pay no taxes in E…
> Ban Oracle and Microsoft from public procurement and start supporting the European equivalent of Baidu or Yandex. Neither of those are EU either, are they? Baidu is Chinese and Yandex is Russia (admittedly they are in Europe, but not part of the EU). How is that any different, from the EU's perspective, to supporting Oracle and Microsoft? Unless I'm misinformed, which is entirely possible.
Curious as to how one expects to will such a company into existence, but whatever I guess.
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I'd be curious about an example of a country where this is at all a requirement. Sadly I think not even Estonia asks for that, they just work with great central services and APIs.
It‘s starting to happen in Germany, at least in healthcare. The Corona Warn App was open sourced (developed by SAP und Deutsche Telekom) and the server software (developed by IBM) will also be open sourced ( https://www.kma-online.de/aktuelles/it-digital-health/detail... )
And now there is a closed source competitor with a lot of backing from some politicians. So it's not that they would have learned the lesson.
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London is an exercise in marketing, to see how far peoples suspension of disbelief can be stretched whilst being a net drain on a country it isn't even strictly part of, and a drain the world as a whole. It is amazing to see how Brits outside of (hell, even in) London live, the British countryside has some of the poorest areas in western Europe. Evidence marketing is effective!
What parts of the British countryside are poor? Anecdotally, the stereotypical British farmer is a wealthy Tory, and low income populations are concentrated in council estates in postindustrial northern towns and cities (i.e. not the countryside).
As for post industrial rust-towns, I think of the northeast/Newcastle, Humberside & Scotland --maybe influenced by 'The Post War Dream' and Kris Killip's photography.