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As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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Post by rimantas »

jrockway wrote: post #5

I love the quotation. I guess having a website means you make nonsensical statements and then be quoted on some smear campaign's website? "This campaign may be the dumbest thing ever posted to the Internet" -- Jonathan Rockway, jrock.us. Credible! (Also, while Google ads may have funded the beginning of Android, it has enough corporate sponsorship now that it could easily outlive Google. Samsung or HTC could easily t…

HTC pays Microsoft for using Android and soon Samsung may join too. Since Googles smart-ass bidding for Nortel patent did not play out taking over "free" OS may seem to expensive for these companies: pay for development and pay patents fee.

http://paidcontent.org/article/419-why-google-and-android-mu...

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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Post by namank »

OK so after walking past the boards, I think its nothing except a marketing ploy to get Kitchener-Waterloo residents to support the local team.

Image - http://twitpic.com/5on93a Image full size - http://twitpic.com/5on93a/full

The posters say to email the CEOs of Apple, Microsoft, and Tom Tom to stop Android because these companies have "lost tens of billions of dollars" (wtf do i care if they lost money?)

RIM building is in the background.

Students/PR firm (some look like students but they also have your typical hot, bare-waist chick helping) is having a hard time keeping the boards up, the wind keeps knocking them down. Guy in the orange seems to be calling the shots.

Drawings look like work of students.

I personally like RIM, really want to know whats going on here.

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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Post by chalst »

zdw wrote: post #19

I see nothing about "building a better machine" from a technical perspective on their site, which I'd expect given the byline. I'm no fan of google's business model (advertising in the vast majority of cases == worthless noise), but at least they are using their position to further technology in good ways, which is more than I can see coming out of RIM.

They have a white paper:

http://www.paybuyer.com/about/white_paper/

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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Post by iuytghyjuyh »

djd wrote: post #58

please mind my ignorance, can some point out whats the main "reasons" Android is bad?

Depends if you are a RIM shareholder or not!

From a OSS point of view, Google don't release changes to the GPL kernel immediately until the hardware makers have actually produced a phone. Perfectly in keeping with the licence but annoys the "I have to have the latest source as of 2seconds ago" crowd.

Android's claim of Open Source is a bit moot if you can only run HTC build X on HTC version X hardware, either because they have their own non-GPL drivers, or they have deliberately locked bits of the hardware

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Post by oniTony »

reso wrote: post #51

As a resident of Waterloo and student at UWaterloo, I can tell you this does not represent the opinion of the student body. It is true, UW has got a lot of benefit from RIM and we are very grateful, but half of us have also interned there, so know from experience that the company has a lot of problems they need to work out. I use an iPhone. Most of my friends have a Nexus S or other androids.

Google's Kitchener/Waterloo office is growing rapidly. Google has been hiring many of us (UWaterloo students/grads) for intern/full-time positions. I, for one, welcome our new Android overlords.

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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Post by kenjackson »

lusis wrote: post #46
canistr wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mention 'at least two players' but from your explanation, you seem satisfied with ONLY two players. I disagree. I'd rather have multiple competitive players than merely two.

I can't recall the name off hand and my googlefu is failing me but there's a theory that says a system that supports multiple political parties eventually evolves (or devolves) into two parties. I think there's a business correlary as well. Markets aren't designed to support more than one or two players. There's not enough market share in a given space for it. Eventually you'll have first, second and everyone else. T…

Markets aren't designed to support more than one or two players. There's not enough market share in a given space for it. Eventually you'll have first, second and everyone else.

What are you talking about? I've never heard that anywhere before?

How many car makers are there? Honda, Toyota, Ford. Right there is three, and they're all pretty darn big. And this ignores some pretty large folk like Chevy, GM, Hyundai, BMW, Mercedes, and other household names.

How many PC computer makers? Dell, HP, Acer, Lenovo. Four, and all pretty big.

How many casual shoe makers? Nike, Reebok, New Balance, Adidas, Sketchers.

Retail stores? Macys, Sears, JCPennys, Walmart, Costco, Target.

There are tons of industries where there are more than two large players. IMO, it seems pretty clear that there will be at least three major players for mobile:

1) iOS. Only Apple. 2) Android 3) Some other phone that is licensed to the same OEMs that make Android devices. They want diversity so that a single company, like Motorola, can't just become the de facto leader. It's likely Windows Phone. Longshot is WebOS.

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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Post by orangecat »

wccrawford wrote: post #42

He hits a nerve, though. The evangelism for companies has been rising at an insane rate. Why do people feel the need to defend their favorite company against the encroachment of other companies? I could understand if their paycheck was on the line. If you write iPod apps and Android starts taking market share, that threatens you. (Assuming you can't also write Android apps, for whatever reason.) But most people just…

Arguably Android is a special case: if it's eliminated by patent suits or other means, then every mainstream mobile platform will be locked down. That's bad for freedom and innovation, and makes abusive legislation like the CBDTPA feasible to enforce.
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