Congrats on the launch! Can't wait to see how online fashion retail will evolve in the near future. I was just wondering how you guys are dealing with image copyrights, did you simply scrape public images and train your model on those? And which shop owns the copyright of the product photos used for your demo? Again, congrats! Impressive product!
Launch HN: Revery.AI (YC S21) Scalable deep learning-based virtual dressing room
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#52Congratulations on the launch, guys! Super cool application for deep learning.
Re: Launch HN: Revery.AI (YC S21) Scalable deep learning-based virtual dressing room
#53I spent significant time working on a virtual dressing room system using 3D avatars created from user photos, and clothing designs from fashion design firms, their brands and manufacturers. With a 3D game developer and film VFX background, I got an MBA to help with my pursuit of the idea. However, once in full time business development with a working system, I found the secrecy and competitive suspicion within the Fashion Industry to be a progress stopper. The clothing designers are so secretive, the clothing manufactures are not given the designs until the last possible moment - to prevent copying. This situation creates a very difficult time frame whereby the clothing designs need to be photographed for marketing literally 2-3 days before they hit the stores. In order to have a virtual clothing try-on system ready when the clothing becomes available, the company producing the virtual clothing system needs to be inside the secrecy veil, with every client, and uber security between clients. If you'd like to discuss what I learned, I'd be happy to share: bsenftner at earthlink dot net. I globally patented the process, but lost the patent in bankruptcy; this is a difficult problem to crack.
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#54Could you train a model on the reverse and make a background less image out of a normal picture? I'm think if you created an app where people can let friends or others try on cloths from their closet. Also, Wondering about a shopify plug in? Also, can you just take clothing images from amazon other merchants use an affiliate program to sell from a virtual try on app. What's the smallest merchant you work with?
Do you mean background matting that removes the background of an image? Perhaps something like this https://github.com/senguptaumd/Background-Matting Yes! We definitely want to allow people to try on clothes from their closet. This will involve digitizing your own closet which is something we are working on to make it easy for everybody. For shopify, we have plans on releasing that in the near future. We do have an a…
I also meant the clothes aren't flat and wrapped around the person. My thought was they could be unwrapped to show a flat version.
I'm saying that you currently take a flat without background picture of a piece of clothing add a model and get a piece of clothing that is made to fit the person.
What if you swapped your output image as your input image and trained a model on the reverse of your output and input.
new model current output image -> current input image
now instead of needed a perfectly flat no background image as input you can take a messier image and convert it into a flat no background image to be used by your current algo.
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#55Super interesting product. Would it be possible for me to use this with images I find online?
It's possible, and I imagine would be a very cool feature for a shopping app! We went to the B2B path after launching Style Space ( https://apps.apple.com/us/app/style-space/id1535818149 ) and realize we don't know how to run e-commerce haha. Might revisit the shopping app / marketplace idea once we have more validation and tractions.
Apologies for the late reply. I downloaded Style Space yesterday after you mentioned here, and the main problem really just was not being able to import my own photos.
A consumer play might be super interesting here; let users import their own photos, make their own outfits, share it with their friends, and add referral/affiliate links on the way to checkout. I work on consumer tech, so email's in my profile if you want to chat more.
Curation is becoming a big part of the next wave of online influence and you have a very unique opportunity to capitalize on that.
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#56Hi, as someone interested in both ML and fashion, this is pretty cool! How are you addressing the idiosyncrasies of how clothing can fit differently? Personally, I like wearing a variety of different fits (slim/boxy/etc). From your demo, it seems like the model is learning a single type of fit (the average of your training data?) and then mapping a texture + details onto this single fit. In physical reality, the fit…
You right, we don't handle fitting at the moment. It's difficult bc most e-commerce don't have diverse body shape model and many other reasons. We are working on it, will take some time for sure.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haha yeah, photoshoots are definitely not the first thing in our mind, but seems like there's real need for it.
I'm going to hazard a guess that it's because the tech isn't quite there yet? People pay expensive money for photoshoots because of the quality but as far as I'm aware generative technology isn't quite there yet? Or who knows, you guys could be the breakthrough!
Yeah, it's slowly getting there but hard to reach 100% so will need QA to touch up for a long time. But the hybrid approach gets better rendering than photoshop vendor image (at least shopper have difficult spotting).
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, we are gonna do it for a few clients and see how well that works. Could be a quicker way to market than the dressing room. "I personally don't find a ton of value in this as a consumer. I want to see how the clothes look on me, not on a model. I can see people wanting to throw together pretend outfits on a model, but I'm not sure how you monetize that." Agree, I bet everyone wants to see outfit on themself or a…
It’s hard to build a product that shows you how clothes fit on someone like you as a B2B service. Retailers don’t want to showcase their clothes on anyone who isn’t anatomically perfect. Plus, if you try to source a more diverse set of “models” from real people wearing clothes, you run into the problem that most people are uncomfortable sharing photos of themselves “modeling” clothes publicly. You’re also right that…
haha yeah, there's a lot of nuance about a fitting room that's hard for 1 product to solve. Our current product focus more on the styling / outfits / engagement, not claiming on the exact fit. Hopefully it brings positive value to conversion and AOV, which would be enough to justify a B2B case. We've also build an app (Style Space), but are not experts in running it.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's possible, and I imagine would be a very cool feature for a shopping app! We went to the B2B path after launching Style Space ( https://apps.apple.com/us/app/style-space/id1535818149 ) and realize we don't know how to run e-commerce haha. Might revisit the shopping app / marketplace idea once we have more validation and tractions.
Apologies for the late reply. I downloaded Style Space yesterday after you mentioned here, and the main problem really just was not being able to import my own photos. A consumer play might be super interesting here; let users import their own photos, make their own outfits, share it with their friends, and add referral/affiliate links on the way to checkout. I work on consumer tech, so email's in my profile if you w…
Frankly, I think it's just very hard to get the kind of effect you're imagining. https://www.formatech.com I know this company that does what you want, but I don't think their rendering is close to what you're imagining. We recognize it's difficulty, so want to start with a more constrained case, maybe will eventually get there :)
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#60How will you compete with Facebook, which is already doing this and giving this functionality and more away for free, and also owns the only channels that matter for fashion digital ads?
They wouldn't be our competitor on B2B, more like a user of this tech. They might have it at some point (either through us or in house), but only available for merchants on their platform.