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Re: 21st Century Baker's Tent

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Post by entangledqubit »

andaluz wrote: post #17
motohagiography wrote: post #8

Amazing, when you add the idea of a Swedish rocket stove ( https://hackaday.com/2021/06/01/disposable-rocket-stove-keep... ) this could make camping way more accessible. I've got some motorcycle camping planned, and own an auger for that stove purpose, but was looking for a tent, and this looks super interesting.

Better take something that could be used inside the tent and makes no smoke. So that you could make some tea or noodles while it rains outside. And no mosquitoes. Believe me, been there.

To reiterate what others have said, do not run a fuel burning stove in a tent. I've heard several stories about people dying from carbon monoxide poisoning while trying to keep warm with a stove in their tent. (One about a parent and child in a national park is burned into my brain.) I suspect that people assume the fabric "breathes" sufficiently.

If you need to boost the warmth of your tent, boil some water outside, put it in a container, and keep that in your tent (being careful of scalding, of course).

Re: 21st Century Baker's Tent

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Post by nate_meurer »

mrfusion wrote: post #88

At the top of my wishlist for a tent is some level of animal protection. I get unreasonably afraid of bears especially when I’m half asleep.

I wouldn't call that unreasonable, but it's not physically possible for a tent to even slow a bear down if it wants to get in. In my town, bears have gotten into houses and garages by tearing the front doors off their hinges, and by tearing through a house's siding and sheathing.

I recommend car camping in bear country.

Re: 21st Century Baker's Tent

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Post by Fricken »

In scouts we winter camped in lean-tos made from sticks and spruce boughs. We would build a wall behind the fire to reflect heat into the lean-to. It works well enough in a survival situation.

It's best to just have a sleeping bag rated for the conditions. Gathering wood and stoking up the fire every 45 minutes is too much of a hassle.

Re: 21st Century Baker's Tent

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Post by nate_meurer »

dylan604 wrote: post #71
deleted_account wrote: post #11

It's a baker tent[1] made from SOL Emergency Blankets[2]. They get warm, but what doesn't when you have a long fire in front of you. [1] http://ruralsportsman.com/rediscover-the-baker-tent/ [2] https://www.surviveoutdoorslonger.com/survive-outdoors-longe...

>They get warm, but what doesn't when you have a long fire in front of you. The shitty fireplace in my piss poor excuse of an 80s designed house. It's almost as if it was included as a check mark in a real estate listing rather than how to make it useful.

Yes. And a hole-in-the-wall fireplace will reliably cause a house to get colder in the winter, by sucking warm interior air up and out the chimney, to be replaced with cold outside air drafted in through leaks in the envelope and HVAC penetrations.

Re: 21st Century Baker's Tent

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Post by jointpdf »

radus wrote: post #46
tucosan wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now you need to tell us which tent you own.

Yes, please! Also curious about preferences for other related equipment - backpacks etc.

Some of the most loved small manufacturers for UL backpacking gear to look into: Mountain Laurel Designs, Gossamer Gear, Tarptent, Western Mountaineering, Enlightened Equipment, ULA, Hyperlite Mountain Gear, ZPacks, McHale Packs (all custom). There are a lot more that I missed, but that should set you in the right direction.

Here are some of the most essential items for my setup (tested for ~2000 miles in various conditions, like the PCT/AT):

- HMG Windrider 3400 backpack (“just works” better than any other UL pack I have used)

- ZPacks 20F sleeping bag (hoodless is great!)

- Patagonia Houdini wind jacket (extremely versatile layer)

- Patagonia sun hoody (essential for skin protection, in my opinion)

- Uniqlo Heattech extra warm leggings (the greatest clothing item of all time) + Uniqlo down hoody jacket

- Fleece pullover hoody (almost any will do—comfort/extra warm item).

- Thermarest Neoair

- Gossamer Gear 1/8” EVA foam sleeping pad for protecting the Neoair and a zillion other uses (e.g. yoga/picnic/door mat, makeshift rain skirt)

- Tyvek groundsheet (cheap, indestructible, waterproof, becomes buttery soft over time)

- Carbon fiber trekking poles (the ones from Costco are cheap/good)

- AquaMira water treatment drops (the Sawyer squeeze filters deliver fresh filtered water, but they break/leak constantly)

- 2x 1L Smartwater bottles + a 2L Platypus bag

- MLD Patrol tarp with an inner tent or bivy (like this: http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=522791). That’s about 16.0 oz (incl. good stakes) for a versatile and storm-worthy(ish) double wall setup.

Re: 21st Century Baker's Tent

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Post by jandrese »

ghaff wrote: post #76
Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I had one of the super light and compact sleeping pads develop a leak after literally about three days. Therm-a-Rests are a dependable brand in this regard, as while a leak may happen from time to time (I have had two punctures in about one year of sleeping outdoors), it is usually very easy to find the hole and patch it yourself, just like you do with a bicycle inner tube. I think Therm-a-Rest even includes the pa…

This was Synmat. Should probably have had a repair kit with me but as I recall there were multiple leaks. And have several older Thermarest products. But there are definitely tradeoffs between weight and durability.

In my experience the repair kits are of marginal utility because the leaks always develop along the seams. Making a successful patch on a seam is near impossible.

Re: 21st Century Baker's Tent

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Post by nate_meurer »

brailsafe wrote: post #90
mrfusion wrote: post #88

At the top of my wishlist for a tent is some level of animal protection. I get unreasonably afraid of bears especially when I’m half asleep.

I've been somewhat concerned about bears as well, though I wonder if just tying a bell to a string and around some trees would help.

You'd need to string a perimeter around the tent. Might give you time to get the bear spray ready.

Re: 21st Century Baker's Tent

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Post by chrisseaton »

ghaff wrote: post #43
eagsalazar2 wrote: post #40

Modern backpacking tents have achieved an exquisite pinnacle of engineering and usability perfection. I am a UX baby (constant whining about almost every tool/service/product I interact with, sorry to everyone who has to be around me) and I love my tent. It is magical the degree to which it has been thoughtfully optimized in so many little ways. DIY tents like this one are interesting and fun if you are into geeking…

Fabrics are a really underappreciated aspect of a lot of modern outdoor gear, especially with respect to weight. My main objection, as I mentioned in another comment, is that durability is one of the tradeoffs. A few years ago I had one of the super light and compact sleeping pads develop a leak after literally about three days. It was replaced for free but that didn't help at the time. I have a new very lightweight…

Very durable fabrics such as CORDURA are extremely heavy. If you just go for the most robust fabric each time you'll be paying for it later on when you're regretting the weight!

Re: 21st Century Baker's Tent

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Post by jandrese »

kag0 wrote: post #20
deleted_account wrote: post #11

It's a baker tent[1] made from SOL Emergency Blankets[2]. They get warm, but what doesn't when you have a long fire in front of you. [1] http://ruralsportsman.com/rediscover-the-baker-tent/ [2] https://www.surviveoutdoorslonger.com/survive-outdoors-longe...

The idea sounds fun, but I'm a little skeptical of the author's claims that it'll get to 80 degrees with only a small fire in front of it. It's quite possible the author and I have different ideas of what a small backpacking fire looks like.

Isn't that when you have the sun shining right into the tent? It's basically a human size solar oven.

Re: 21st Century Baker's Tent

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