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80% of tech could be built outside IT by 2024, thanks to low-code tools

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Re: 80% of tech could be built outside IT by 2024, thanks to low-code tools

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"Hi. We built a website with lowcode tool X, and would like to extend it with premium feature Y, Z and W without having to pay for it. Can someone who knows a bit of technology please volunteer help us extend the locked-down functionality and break any license agreements. We pwomise you won't become our fall guy, and will evict you off the project as soon as you're done."

We actually hear these things for reals.

Re: 80% of tech could be built outside IT by 2024, thanks to low-code tools

#72
post #37

There seems to be a wave of no code hype, much of it coming from the VC community, and I’m baffled as to what has happened to convince people it’s going to work this time. Is there some breakthrough tool I’m not aware of? Or is it just like this article, a bunch of pitch decks saying “if we can take just 80% of the tech market we’ll be zillionaires”?

Besides serious growth, he big low-code companies posted some impressive case-studies.

For example Outsystems's software was used to build a hospital management system, commercially.

So they've got a a lot of deployed software for a few years, and some of it is really complex.

And it seems to work. No huge negative PR AFAIK.

And there's ton of demand.

I do wonder what's they're breakthrough though.

Re: 80% of tech could be built outside IT by 2024, thanks to low-code tools

#73
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So many horse and buggy makers in these comments that can’t see what you see. They think that because some SaaS app they build required so much custom login that low code won’t make a big difference in their world view. What low code really represents is making automation more accessible for more common tasks without knowing how to develop software. Zapier but for more complex tasks. 20 years ago you had apps like Dr…

Someone who gets it! Lowcode isn’t designed to replace all code, it’s designed to replace boilerplate CRUD apps with only a thin bit of logic. Often these are the internal apps too that aren’t worth the investment of a “fully coded” solution.

Can't wait to get a few dozen of those boilerplate CRUD apps! Sounds like that's going to take off any time now.

Re: 80% of tech could be built outside IT by 2024, thanks to low-code tools

#74
post #43

No No No There is such a thing as software literacy just as there is a thing called literacy. We spend the first 15-20 years of life teaching literacy so that a young person will be productive in life. What makes us think it's going to be different with software? The idea of low-code is like the idea of writing a novel by cut and pasting loads of blank comic book panels carefully crafted by Marvel Studios. This job u…

Fully agreed. A former employer once decided to empower non-technical users to design their own integrations using zapier. It was fine until someone wrote an action that changed a cell on a spreadsheet, which triggered another action that, itself, triggered the original action. A more software literate user would likely have noticed the infinite loop. That was not a fun week. And anyway, this specific case was all to…

Agreed - I mean I grew up on a couple of Sinclair's. You literally started in a command line. You needed to load up the distracting game from tape. Magazines had print outs to type in (that was less cool but at least you had he point)

Damn I need to start those coding clubs with my kids ... it's like growing up in a chefs house who just orders take out cos he is too tired after a days work. poor kids

Re: 80% of tech could be built outside IT by 2024, thanks to low-code tools

#75
post #37

There seems to be a wave of no code hype, much of it coming from the VC community, and I’m baffled as to what has happened to convince people it’s going to work this time. Is there some breakthrough tool I’m not aware of? Or is it just like this article, a bunch of pitch decks saying “if we can take just 80% of the tech market we’ll be zillionaires”?

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Re: 80% of tech could be built outside IT by 2024, thanks to low-code tools

#76
post #46

No No No There is such a thing as software literacy just as there is a thing called literacy. We spend the first 15-20 years of life teaching literacy so that a young person will be productive in life. What makes us think it's going to be different with software? The idea of low-code is like the idea of writing a novel by cut and pasting loads of blank comic book panels carefully crafted by Marvel Studios. This job u…

First off, disclaimer, co-founder of Lowdefy [0] and shameless plug. But feel ok since it is on topic. I 100% agree with you on this. We’ve built many back-office tools for customers and the bulk of the engineering time goes into understanding the problem and tranlating that into data. Tools like Lowdefy make it a lot easier to put this translation into action, but the real work is done by a data literate employee. W…

Ok - piqued interest, the DSL sounds interesting and I tried the demo. Wish you all the best

PS

Low-Def-ee or Loader-fi

?

Re: 80% of tech could be built outside IT by 2024, thanks to low-code tools

#78

No No No There is such a thing as software literacy just as there is a thing called literacy. We spend the first 15-20 years of life teaching literacy so that a young person will be productive in life. What makes us think it's going to be different with software? The idea of low-code is like the idea of writing a novel by cut and pasting loads of blank comic book panels carefully crafted by Marvel Studios. This job u…

> But not dumbing down - skilling up But, you cannot have Wall Street consolidated market winners if you do that! How dare you! I saw this first hand growing up. The school system had a couple of programming courses a few years before I got into the high school, and then it got all new computers and magically reduced computer education to only a set of Microsoft Office courses offered. Who needs programming? The scho…

So much this. I was in that beautiful space where schools experimented with CNA and A+ cert programs that set me in the generalized basics of how to escape from proprietary stacks.

Re: 80% of tech could be built outside IT by 2024, thanks to low-code tools

#79

No No No There is such a thing as software literacy just as there is a thing called literacy. We spend the first 15-20 years of life teaching literacy so that a young person will be productive in life. What makes us think it's going to be different with software? The idea of low-code is like the idea of writing a novel by cut and pasting loads of blank comic book panels carefully crafted by Marvel Studios. This job u…

still, the sheer number of ready made sandboxes certainly will expand such that niche software implementations will be far and fewer.

of course, like moores law, its likely not going to engulf everywhere a programmer touches, so new use cases will keep busy.

but take wordpress, you can basicslly build a whole ecommerce site knowing a couple of plugins real well.

Re: 80% of tech could be built outside IT by 2024, thanks to low-code tools

#80
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First off, disclaimer, co-founder of Lowdefy [0] and shameless plug. But feel ok since it is on topic. I 100% agree with you on this. We’ve built many back-office tools for customers and the bulk of the engineering time goes into understanding the problem and tranlating that into data. Tools like Lowdefy make it a lot easier to put this translation into action, but the real work is done by a data literate employee. W…

Ok - piqued interest, the DSL sounds interesting and I tried the demo. Wish you all the best PS Low-Def-ee or Loader-fi ?

Thanks :) It's Low-de-fi
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