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As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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Is this one of those "it doesn't have to make sense, it's just for publicity" things? Why are the uni students holding a rally? What connection do they have to"Paybuyer, LLC" which funds this Adwords competitor?

> Is this one of those "it doesn't have to make sense, it's just for publicity" things? Pretty much. > Why are the uni students holding a rally? What connection do they have to"Paybuyer, LLC" which funds this Adwords competitor? It's not a rally; they're holding up giant signs to face traffic. I think it was four people to a sign. (It didn't occur to me to take a picture until I was already far away.) This is just a…

It's not even advertising. It's a mashup of the yahoo directory (from the early 1990's) concept combined with a Publishers Clearinghouse Sweepstakes model.

There are no ads that are put onto publishers' websites to get paid. In order for this to work people have to manually go to the web-based "yellow pages" and then register their intent to buy say, a washing machine, and then that gives you a lottery ticket where if you win, you have to prove that you have purchased a washing machine within N days of registering your intent.

So suppose I have already decided to buy a washing machine, and GE, Maytag, and Kenmore have all bought into this scheme. This allows me to get 3 lottery picks, which might have an expected value of 10 cents each ($100, with a 1 in 1000 chance of winning, say). Presumably GE, Maytag, and Kenmore will all have to pay 15 cents, with the startup pocketing 5 cents.

The question is whether GE, Maytag, and Kenmore get 15 cents worth of value. Remember, I was a motivated buyer who had already decided to buy a washing machine. The only question was which one. This isn't going to reach someone who hadn't yet decided that they were going to buy, and so didn't have the motivation to go to the startup's web page.

To think this would disrupt a true advertising based system, whether it's Adwords, or even the pullouts in the Sunday morning newspaper is just silly.

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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According to a whois the site is run by the owner of this site: http://www.paybuyer.com/ PayBuyer appears to be an ad network. In other words, the guy could care less about Android and is just mad that AdSense/AdWords dominates. It's funny that supporters of RIM have taken it seriously without doing 30 seconds of research.

Also, it says that directly on the site itself.

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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According to a whois the site is run by the owner of this site: http://www.paybuyer.com/ PayBuyer appears to be an ad network. In other words, the guy could care less about Android and is just mad that AdSense/AdWords dominates. It's funny that supporters of RIM have taken it seriously without doing 30 seconds of research.

Also, it says that directly on the site itself.

Whoops. Just zoomed right past the site's About. Not sure how anyone can take this thing as more than a publicity stunt.

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is this one of those "it doesn't have to make sense, it's just for publicity" things? Pretty much. > Why are the uni students holding a rally? What connection do they have to"Paybuyer, LLC" which funds this Adwords competitor? It's not a rally; they're holding up giant signs to face traffic. I think it was four people to a sign. (It didn't occur to me to take a picture until I was already far away.) This is just a…

It's not even advertising. It's a mashup of the yahoo directory (from the early 1990's) concept combined with a Publishers Clearinghouse Sweepstakes model. There are no ads that are put onto publishers' websites to get paid. In order for this to work people have to manually go to the web-based "yellow pages" and then register their intent to buy say, a washing machine, and then that gives you a lottery ticket where i…

Thanks. That was a very helpful explanation.

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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A new form of Jingoism. This is not how you are going to succeed in the long term. Even if this is half serious, appealing to the protective, negative instincts of people suggests that RIM's future is bleaker than I thought it was Edit: It's not clear to me though if RIM has anything to do with this.

Nothing to do with RIM. It's marketing for paybuyer.com.

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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I doubt that college students are going to be upset by an open source project 'Destroying Wealth'. Why would anyone other than RIM share holders care if RIM is loosing market share to Android?

You care if you are a college kid who helped develop a competitor to Google's AdWords and you want to pitch it to RIM and MS. At least I think that's what is going on here.

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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According to a whois the site is run by the owner of this site: http://www.paybuyer.com/ PayBuyer appears to be an ad network. In other words, the guy could care less about Android and is just mad that AdSense/AdWords dominates. It's funny that supporters of RIM have taken it seriously without doing 30 seconds of research.

Also, it says that directly on the site itself.

> Also, it says that directly on the site itself.

But you have to admit, playing 'geek-detective' is more fun, right? I mean, who believes the stuff in an "About" page when you can run a whois and get the _Truth_ ^_^

Re: As I run past the RIM buildings, I see these posters

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A new form of Jingoism. This is not how you are going to succeed in the long term. Even if this is half serious, appealing to the protective, negative instincts of people suggests that RIM's future is bleaker than I thought it was Edit: It's not clear to me though if RIM has anything to do with this.

Nothing to do with RIM. It's marketing for paybuyer.com.

So it's just a marketing campaign trying to appeal to protectionist instincts. Thanks
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