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It’s possible to pay $150 in taxes on an income of $150K

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> Taxes. It is our duty as patriotic Americans to keep our individual taxes as low as possible. Can someone explain that sentence? What's "patriotic" about paying less taxes?

They probably subscribe to an ideology like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast

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The best tax optimization trick you can do is to open an LLC. Costs $800/year to maintain in California, enables you to claim business expenses for a looot of things. Sometimes surprisingly. You don’t even need a whole lot of revenue. Just sell something, anything, and go for it. The penalty for going overboard is to pay back taxes with a bit of interest. As long as you don’t do anything crazy, you should be fine. Re…

Also the extreme headache of an audit

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#23
Holy shit, $500 a year for health insurance? I pay twice that a month and don't even get an HSA option.

Seems weird to put so much into retirement funds if your plan is to retire in your 30s, the penalties of touching that before 60 are pretty substantial.

I suspect there's some sort of inheritance of property or something they're not disclosing.

Re: It’s possible to pay $150 in taxes on an income of $150K

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The author has 3 children, and that's a _household_ income of $150000. 150 grand is not a huge family income to support 2 adults and 3 kids; as a country, we give people tax breaks to encourage having children and to help support people who make that choice. Calling this "Houdini-like" (author's words) tax hacking seems like a bit of a misunderstanding of deliberate social policy!

> 150 grand is not a huge family income to support 2 adults and 3 kids It's more than double the median household income.

This is highly dependent on where you live obviously, so if we are speaking about a particular individual this line of reasoning is not relevant.

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post #17

The best tax optimization trick you can do is to open an LLC. Costs $800/year to maintain in California, enables you to claim business expenses for a looot of things. Sometimes surprisingly. You don’t even need a whole lot of revenue. Just sell something, anything, and go for it. The penalty for going overboard is to pay back taxes with a bit of interest. As long as you don’t do anything crazy, you should be fine. Re…

Yeah, for anyone reading who needs to read this: don’t do this. Unless you’re running a legitimate business, this is blatant tax fraud.

Also $800/yr in California? You people are being ripped off. LLCs aren’t laid any fees to maintain annually in Arizona, and they’re perpetual entities.

Re: It’s possible to pay $150 in taxes on an income of $150K

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The author has 3 children, and that's a _household_ income of $150000. 150 grand is not a huge family income to support 2 adults and 3 kids; as a country, we give people tax breaks to encourage having children and to help support people who make that choice. Calling this "Houdini-like" (author's words) tax hacking seems like a bit of a misunderstanding of deliberate social policy!

there is no such thing as loopholes and tax hacking, simply 'THE LAW'

noone is beholden to pay more taxes than the tax code requires.

anyone who uses emotional appeal to say otherwise wont help me when i need their help anyway so they can pound sand.

Re: It’s possible to pay $150 in taxes on an income of $150K

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post #17

The best tax optimization trick you can do is to open an LLC. Costs $800/year to maintain in California, enables you to claim business expenses for a looot of things. Sometimes surprisingly. You don’t even need a whole lot of revenue. Just sell something, anything, and go for it. The penalty for going overboard is to pay back taxes with a bit of interest. As long as you don’t do anything crazy, you should be fine. Re…

You don’t need an LLC to do this, a single member LLC is a pass-through entity so you’re just buying legal protection for $800/yr, not tax benefits.

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The two biggest reducers he cites are 401k contributions and tax-loss harvesting. #1. 401k. While this is a great idea, if he's trying to retire at 33, putting 17.5k away from his 70k paycheck is not going to help because he can't touch it until he is 59.5 (w/o penalty). #2. Capital losses Tax-loss harvesting means selling securities that are underwater to get a capital-loss deduction. I don't know where to start exp…

>because he can't touch it until he is 59.5 (w/o penalty).

That's not quite true. With 5 years of preplanning, you can get money out of a 401k without any penalty at any age (although, you will of course pay taxes on it) by doing a backdoor Roth IRA ladder.

Re: It’s possible to pay $150 in taxes on an income of $150K

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

and watch it come out that their parents take care of their kids and their house is paid off :D

There's not even enough money to buy food unless they are living off savings. They couldn't even pay property tax! By definition, if they were living off dividends or capital gains - if they were doing things legally - they'd have a higher taxable income. This is click bait to the extreme.

I used to follow their blog and they are at the forefront of the FIRE movement. No thanks. It's crazy the length they go to in order to minimize their expense. They def have a lot of help from their family. It def is click bait and what they're doing isn't "healthy" in my opinion. We let our kids be kids and that means spoiling them on many things. I'm not referring to iPhones or cars, but more like I'm not going to worry about whether I should buy two icees or one icee to split between both kids.

Re: It’s possible to pay $150 in taxes on an income of $150K

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post #17

The best tax optimization trick you can do is to open an LLC. Costs $800/year to maintain in California, enables you to claim business expenses for a looot of things. Sometimes surprisingly. You don’t even need a whole lot of revenue. Just sell something, anything, and go for it. The penalty for going overboard is to pay back taxes with a bit of interest. As long as you don’t do anything crazy, you should be fine. Re…

Yeah, for anyone reading who needs to read this: don’t do this. Unless you’re running a legitimate business, this is blatant tax fraud. Also $800/yr in California? You people are being ripped off. LLCs aren’t laid any fees to maintain annually in Arizona, and they’re perpetual entities.

Not necessarily. There's a difference between tax avoidance and tax evasion.
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