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Post by ds206 »

raverbashing wrote: post #32
_holographic_ wrote: post #26

Everyone that study the subject will see that the evidence for Ivermectin is overwhelming. https://c19ivermectin.com/ The suppression of a cheap & effective C19 drug is a crime against humanity.

Garbage In Garbage Out Open-Label studies on some poor country are not "quality evidence". (On the other hand I don't take that manufacturer's statement as a fair and honest assessment of the drug) We do need serious studies on the repurposing of drugs, but people take it as their silver bullet.

No one is paying for studies where there is no money to be made later. It's a chicken and egg problem in a way. Ivermectin is cheap and off patent.

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Post by micouay »

MattGaiser wrote: post #14

The makers of Ivermectin are against the use of Ivermectin for Covid. https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use... The dissenters are advocating things even the company that stands to profit from those things opposes. That’s how off the deep end this is.

1. There's no patent on Ivermectin. (Correct me if I got it wrong) 2. Merck has announced an agreement with US gov for 1.7 mln courses of anew antiviral treatment for $1.2 bln. Also they have no real argument against IM:

> No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies; No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and; A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20210609005142/en/Mer...

https://mobile.twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/140264794837...

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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Post by sb057 »

tamaharbor wrote: post #20
ZephyrBlu wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And how exactly do they determine whether something is "dangerous medical misinformation"? I'm guessing it's probably based on WHO guidelines, which means a very large number of things are off limits.

Wasn’t the WHO (and CDC) incorrect regarding several aspects of the recent Coronavirus?

"Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China."

https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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Post by zackees »

yokaze wrote: post #29
micouay wrote: post #7

What else should scientists do than challenging the status quo? Bret (Eric's brother, biology PhD) had a 2h long conversation with Pierre Kory (MD) and it was taken down by YT. One of the things they talked was the recommendations of WHO and other organisations to focus on supportive care only (supporting the patient while their organism fights the disease by itself). They insist on not using other treatments outside…

> They insist on not using other treatments outside clinical trials. The argument that running experiments would cost lives doesn't seem coherent. Clinical trials are structured experiments which follow a certain protocol, ethical review, etc... > It's not like we have this 100+ yrs practice of dealing with SARS-CoV-2 epidemic with well established protocols We do have 100+ years of practice in dealing with various d…

All these protocols for treating disease was changed for this virus. Patients were banned from taking HCQ in the state. I know several this happened too.

Pretending the system is working as intended is a farce.

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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Post by tmule »

It is hard to come up with a good framework for this: this is a classic exploration (possibly effective and cheap remedy) versus exploitation (known remedies that are really mostly unavailable to the developing world) mechanism. In general, even there exploitation mechanism has been questionable for many things COVID-related (debate around making), and the establishment flip-flipping on the lab leak theory doesn’t inspire confidence.

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Post by throwkeep »

MattGaiser wrote: post #14

The makers of Ivermectin are against the use of Ivermectin for Covid. https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use... The dissenters are advocating things even the company that stands to profit from those things opposes. That’s how off the deep end this is.

What you're missing is that Ivermectin is decades old and off patent so anyone can make it cheap. Merck is against it because they are working on a new drug that they'll have a monopoly on. Typical of big pharma.

Why are people blindly accepting what big pharma says when it comes to Covid, as though the industry has suddenly turned a new leaf?

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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Post by _holographic_ »

raverbashing wrote: post #32
_holographic_ wrote: post #26

Everyone that study the subject will see that the evidence for Ivermectin is overwhelming. https://c19ivermectin.com/ The suppression of a cheap & effective C19 drug is a crime against humanity.

Garbage In Garbage Out Open-Label studies on some poor country are not "quality evidence". (On the other hand I don't take that manufacturer's statement as a fair and honest assessment of the drug) We do need serious studies on the repurposing of drugs, but people take it as their silver bullet.

Garbage sure, as the many testimonies from doctors all around the world that say it works spectaculary. Big Pharma is running the show so no one is going to finance fancy double blind RCT´s. It´s completely crazy to ignore treatments for C19, this disease is easily treatable on symptom onset.

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Post by Turing_Machine »

jwilber wrote: post #25

On the’censored’ man’s attempted foray into a different field, physics: “ The paper qualifies that the author "is not a physicist" but an "entertainer", and it has received strong criticism from the scientific community, including having "no visible impact" and having "gaps both mathematical and physical in origin that jeopardize Geometric Unity as a well-defined theory, much less one that is a candidate for a theory…

From your own source:

> Weinstein received his PhD in mathematical physics from Harvard University

How is that "not a physicist"?

I'm not saying that his theory is valid, mind you -- I don't know anything about it, nor am I myself qualified to judge that.

But he clearly is a qualified physicist.

Re: “YouTube is shutting down dissenting Biology PhDs and MDs”

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Post by _holographic_ »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #37
_holographic_ wrote: post #26

Everyone that study the subject will see that the evidence for Ivermectin is overwhelming. https://c19ivermectin.com/ The suppression of a cheap & effective C19 drug is a crime against humanity.

> is a crime against humanity This is an offshoot, but I wish this form of hyperbole would stop. “Crime against humanity” is a technical term. Watering it down to refer to everything one doesn’t like dilutes it. We have actual crimes against humanity that cannot find political ground, in part due to the term’s semantic satiation.

Supressing a safe & effective drug is a crime against humanity, there is no other way to qualify it.
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