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Post by ds206 »

MattGaiser wrote: post #14

The makers of Ivermectin are against the use of Ivermectin for Covid. https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use... The dissenters are advocating things even the company that stands to profit from those things opposes. That’s how off the deep end this is.

No. Ivermectin is off patent. There is no money to be made. That is the point. Everyone wants to invent new drugs and vaccines to make a buck. Btw, Merck is distancing themselves from Ivermectin because they have a new drug in the works. Please read/watch more.

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

paulpauper wrote: post #15
deadalus wrote: post #3

Youtube Alternatives : Centralized : Bitchute, Rumble, DTube, Dailymotion, Vimeo, Vidlii Decentralized : Odysee(LBRY), Peertube

and none of the alternatives are even 1/100 as good or have nearly the same reach as youtube, which is how youtube is able to get away with what they do. VCs are much more interested these days in payment processing, which is where the money is, than video, which is expensive and hard to monetize..

>...and none of the alternatives are even 1/100 as good or have nearly the same reach as youtube

None of this is the concern of YT and the content that they choose to host. By that logic, someone should be able to spam HN with information about my car's extended warranty due to it's reach.

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Post by jwilber »

On the’censored’ man’s attempted foray into a different field, physics:

“ The paper qualifies that the author "is not a physicist" but an "entertainer", and it has received strong criticism from the scientific community, including having "no visible impact" and having "gaps both mathematical and physical in origin that jeopardize Geometric Unity as a well-defined theory, much less one that is a candidate for a theory of everything.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Weinstein#Physics

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Post by marcinzm »

varispeed wrote: post #18
micouay wrote: post #7

What else should scientists do than challenging the status quo? Bret (Eric's brother, biology PhD) had a 2h long conversation with Pierre Kory (MD) and it was taken down by YT. One of the things they talked was the recommendations of WHO and other organisations to focus on supportive care only (supporting the patient while their organism fights the disease by itself). They insist on not using other treatments outside…

> insist on not using other treatments outside clinical trials That signals they may have conflict of interest. For example accidentally finding a treatment that works, could mean huge loss for vaccine business. (Just to be clear, I am not anti-vax. I got vaccinated myself and I believe there is no better option right now, however, trying to limit doctors in finding other means sounds extremely fishy)

Telling doctors to not randomly experiment on their patients outside of a controlled studies seems perfectly reasonable. Most medical groups tend to view uncontrolled human experimentation as very unethical and have for a long time.

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Post by yokaze »

micouay wrote: post #7

What else should scientists do than challenging the status quo? Bret (Eric's brother, biology PhD) had a 2h long conversation with Pierre Kory (MD) and it was taken down by YT. One of the things they talked was the recommendations of WHO and other organisations to focus on supportive care only (supporting the patient while their organism fights the disease by itself). They insist on not using other treatments outside…

> They insist on not using other treatments outside clinical trials. The argument that running experiments would cost lives doesn't seem coherent.

Clinical trials are structured experiments which follow a certain protocol, ethical review, etc...

> It's not like we have this 100+ yrs practice of dealing with SARS-CoV-2 epidemic with well established protocols

We do have 100+ years of practice in dealing with various diseases, circumstances, including pandemics, etc... In that sense SARS-CoV-2 is nothing special. Protocols have been developed to ensure that we actually gain knowledge, and not at the expense of the patients.

Should we skip on ethical review boards? Or patient confidentiality? Which part of a clinical study are you suggesting are superfluous?

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Post by varispeed »

marcinzm wrote: post #27
varispeed wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> insist on not using other treatments outside clinical trials That signals they may have conflict of interest. For example accidentally finding a treatment that works, could mean huge loss for vaccine business. (Just to be clear, I am not anti-vax. I got vaccinated myself and I believe there is no better option right now, however, trying to limit doctors in finding other means sounds extremely fishy)

Telling doctors to not randomly experiment on their patients outside of a controlled studies seems perfectly reasonable. Most medical groups tend to view uncontrolled human experimentation as very unethical and have for a long time.

What would you say about doctors prescribing e.g. random SSRI?
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