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Goodbye Freenode

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Re: Goodbye Freenode

#21

It is ironic, but not at all surprising to me, that "free speech" in the context of current Freenode means being not enforcing codes of conduct (so being transphobia-friendly among other things), but an iron moderation grip on any criticism of the network itself.

They're not just transphobia-friendly; one of their new ops got opped right after uttering a transphobic slur in a very transphobic sentence. Their own staff are openly transphobes.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#22
I stuck around IRC because of people like Ned providing sound advice and keeping a kind community. It's a shame that drama brews and things like this happen. Hopefully the change keeps the community happier and healthier!

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#23
Many IRC networks have had drama.

But does anyone know the motivation for recent actions by Freenode?

I'm discounting conspiracy theories (e.g., flipping, sabotage) because I think anyone acting strategically wrt IRC knows that forking an IRC network has been part of the standard toolkit for responding to "damage", since almost the start.

I'm starting to lean towards a theory of there being no longer being a business reason nor ideological reason to Freenode's recent actions. At least not after the first few days.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#25
I don't understand what the big deal with all this Freenode drama is. It just got renamed to Libera, update your host files and you're done.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#26
post #25

I don't understand what the big deal with all this Freenode drama is. It just got renamed to Libera, update your host files and you're done.

The drama is that whenever someone attempts to tell people that on Freenode, their channels get taken over and/or they get banned.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#27
post #25

I don't understand what the big deal with all this Freenode drama is. It just got renamed to Libera, update your host files and you're done.

The drama is that whenever someone attempts to tell people that on Freenode, their channels get taken over and/or they get banned.

My comment was a rather tongue-in-cheek take of how Libera is carrying on the spirit of Freenode, and we should just consider Freenode a random other network that somehow got Freenode's name by accident.

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#29
post #23

Many IRC networks have had drama. But does anyone know the motivation for recent actions by Freenode? I'm discounting conspiracy theories (e.g., flipping, sabotage) because I think anyone acting strategically wrt IRC knows that forking an IRC network has been part of the standard toolkit for responding to "damage", since almost the start. I'm starting to lean towards a theory of there being no longer being a business…

There is some speculation about the motivations here: https://ariadne.space/2021/05/20/the-whole-freenode-kerfluff...

Re: Goodbye Freenode

#30
All my chat networks I care about have migrated to Libera or Matrix. And I agree freenode is circling the drain.

I was also banned and Klined, but I am not sure this was a free node action...

I was immediately able to reconnect to a different freenode server. And have not been bothered since. It definitely feels like a rouge operator just banned everyone on their node.

However despite this happening several days ago, there is no statement from freenode, so IDK.

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