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I Miss the Old Internet (2019)

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Re: I Miss the Old Internet (2019)

#22

I actually enjoy today's Internet much more. I'll lay out the reasons: 1) Easy access to many high quality contents. For example HN is a good platform for accessing new knowledge. Note that I say "access", not "learn". Reading HN sometimes give people the false impression that they are learning new knowledge, which usually is not the case. I treat HN as a platform to get a peek at certain new knowledge, but reading b…

That's fair, but the technological improvements in the network layer that made it faster, more accessible and cheaper are not directly related with the complaints by the author.

We can have one thing without losing the other.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet (2019)

#25

> All these wikis have the same layout and are just dull, devoid of emotion. Probably he's talking about Wikia (or, by their new name, Fandom), which indeed is pretty much always the same layout as Wikipedia plus a literal shitload of ads. What killed off the other sites? Mostly the fact that whenever emotions run high (and the more invested people are in a fandom, the worse it gets), you will have a bunch of scriptk…

That is combination of great points.

Most of those niche stuff sits in Facebook groups, I bet there are quite a lot of naturist/whatver groups there (probably not posting photos but organizing events or discussing stuff), you have to follow right people on fb/tt/yt.

The creativity is there, for me author of that post misses forest for the trees. Web pages are just secondary artifacts. I don't want my favorite band members sitting in the evening messing with HTML I want them to make music.

Counter culture is about people and what they want to express, sometimes it might be important "how", but for a lot of hobbies "how" is not that much important as long as it is clear and easy to do.

This is why I don't miss "old internet", people are crafty and interesting anyway.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet (2019)

#26
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I remember the backlash against unique designs where everyone said they just wanted plain sites, with the information in focus. Now when big parts of internet basically have become standardized and sterile everyone wants these unique designs back.

When we said we wanted plain sites, we meant like this https://lite.cnn.com/en or https://news.ycombinator.com/

We did not mean standardize to big picture smiling people, carousels to more pictures and with just one sentence.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet (2019)

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post #22

I actually enjoy today's Internet much more. I'll lay out the reasons: 1) Easy access to many high quality contents. For example HN is a good platform for accessing new knowledge. Note that I say "access", not "learn". Reading HN sometimes give people the false impression that they are learning new knowledge, which usually is not the case. I treat HN as a platform to get a peek at certain new knowledge, but reading b…

That's fair, but the technological improvements in the network layer that made it faster, more accessible and cheaper are not directly related with the complaints by the author. We can have one thing without losing the other.

I agree with you. Too much bloat somehow.

Re: I Miss the Old Internet (2019)

#29

"I miss old ATX." "I miss old [X]." There's no point to sentimentality. Zeitgeist is always missed. You can't go back without a time-machine.

>There's no point to sentimentality. Zeitgeist is always missed. You can't go back without a time-machine.

the point of reminiscing is to steer the current time towards the good points of the past, while trying to navigate around the difficulties experienced previously.

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