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Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Pretty sure gnome-terminal and terminator both have this.

And powershell (if I understand what is being described).

That would be Windows Terminal, the application inside of which PowerShell and other shells run.

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> Before this unnatural practice became prevalent We’re talking about computer hardware and software. Complaining that it is “unnatural” makes no sense. > any computer user and / or Linux / Windows / Mac / Android developer could create and distribute software on the respective platforms for free without any such financial consideration. This isn’t true. The first Android device was launched to the public after the A…

The consoles are niche entertainment devices. They also have many alternatives: multiple stores on PCs, and several newer cloud-based products. For this reason I'm OK with the stores in xbox/playstation/nintendo. With smartphones it's different. Phones are not niche devices, they are ubiquitous and have killed whole industries like consumer photo/video equipment and portable audio. From consumer point of view, no rea…

> The consoles are niche entertainment devices.

They sell by the tens of millions. They are in no way “niche”.

> Phones are not niche devices, they are ubiquitous and have killed whole industries like consumer photo/video equipment and portable audio.

It wasn’t common for things like cameras to have open development platforms either.

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Apple PR: > we do not advantage our apps over those of any developer or competitor Apple employee Debankur Naskar: > I think the Files app was manually boosted ... during last WWDC. We are removing the manual boost So which of these is true? Or is PR technically correct because they do not currently "advantage" their apps?

Isn't it obvious? They say they don't give advantage to their own apps as a company policy but they made exception to this during an event. The follow up e-mails indicate that the upper management wasn't happy about this and demanded high level approval before this happens next time. So it's not really evil Apple caught doing something that they say they don't. Its more like corrupt Apple where someone did something…

> A relevant app being boosted during an event could be justified, though better not make it a habit

That doesn't stand if it's only Apple's apps and events that get this special treatment. Did Dropbox's app get a boost during Dropbox promotional events?

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Isn't it obvious? They say they don't give advantage to their own apps as a company policy but they made exception to this during an event. The follow up e-mails indicate that the upper management wasn't happy about this and demanded high level approval before this happens next time. So it's not really evil Apple caught doing something that they say they don't. Its more like corrupt Apple where someone did something…

> A relevant app being boosted during an event could be justified, though better not make it a habit That doesn't stand if it's only Apple's apps and events that get this special treatment. Did Dropbox's app get a boost during Dropbox promotional events?

Actually, with iOS 15 that would be the case. They introduced events functionality that is supposed to give extra visibility in the App Store for apps with live events. Check: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/in-app-events/

Anyway, it’s obviously a case of special treatment that was forbidden of being repeated once made aware by the higher management.

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> A relevant app being boosted during an event could be justified, though better not make it a habit That doesn't stand if it's only Apple's apps and events that get this special treatment. Did Dropbox's app get a boost during Dropbox promotional events?

Actually, with iOS 15 that would be the case. They introduced events functionality that is supposed to give extra visibility in the App Store for apps with live events. Check: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/in-app-events/ Anyway, it’s obviously a case of special treatment that was forbidden of being repeated once made aware by the higher management.

Wasn't aware of that, thanks.

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Actually, with iOS 15 that would be the case. They introduced events functionality that is supposed to give extra visibility in the App Store for apps with live events. Check: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/in-app-events/ Anyway, it’s obviously a case of special treatment that was forbidden of being repeated once made aware by the higher management.

Wasn't aware of that, thanks.

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They also don't pay the same taxes as small businesses. The market is completely rigged. Apple should be split and fined.

Apple is the largest taxpayer in the US. (and incorporated in California instead of Delaware, which presumably means higher fees)

Larger != pays the same tax in terms of %.

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> Mac software and app industry has died. Even after notarising apps they show malicious popup to users. I maintain a handful of open source apps for macOS, and have for years. If I don't pay the $100 Apple tax, macOS will treat those apps as if they're radioactive, and it will trick users into believing the apps are either broken or malicious. In order to run them, users must know how to change arcane settings and d…

Windows is getting close to macOS in that regard. Specifically, both browser and OS are arbitrarily marking installers as malware, scaring users. Even digital signatures don't help. The only reliable workaround is publishing through Windows store.

Yep, been bitten by that myself.

Nowadays normal (OV) codesign signatures still trigger warnings for users on startup. Only a much more expensive EV codesign certificate guarantees a silent install.

The OV codesign certificate can become accepted by Smartscreen, but it can take a very long time with many downloads (in my case it took over 5 months, with thousands of downloads)

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Apple has made life of small developers hard. Mac software and app industry has died. Even after notarising apps they show malicious popup to users. Same practices has adapted by apple like search ad etc etc. They make competing services and steal ideas of developers and those app dies. For eg screen time for Moments app. They have unfair advantage and small developers could not complete. Only handful of indie develo…

No.

I’m a small developer and Apple made my life easier than Microsoft or Google ever did.

Re: Apple admits it ranked its Files app ahead of competitor Dropbox

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Apple has made life of small developers hard. Mac software and app industry has died. Even after notarising apps they show malicious popup to users. Same practices has adapted by apple like search ad etc etc. They make competing services and steal ideas of developers and those app dies. For eg screen time for Moments app. They have unfair advantage and small developers could not complete. Only handful of indie develo…

> Mac software and app industry has died. Even after notarising apps they show malicious popup to users. I maintain a handful of open source apps for macOS, and have for years. If I don't pay the $100 Apple tax, macOS will treat those apps as if they're radioactive, and it will trick users into believing the apps are either broken or malicious. In order to run them, users must know how to change arcane settings and d…

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