Moon is the spot for tourists. It's only a day a way! But, the real money maker on the moon is televised sports. Moonball is going to be awesome to watch.
Hilton's 1967 plan for a space hotel
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Re: Hilton's 1967 plan for a space hotel
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Would a manned Mars mission really have been feasible? Is it feasible now? I have no idea, myself. No less than Michael Griffith, * the NASA Administrator* , said in 2007 that the shuttle was a mistake ( https://aviationweek.typepad.com/space/2007/03/human_space_e... >), and that NASA should have instead continuing launching Saturn rockets: >If we had done all this, we would be on Mars today, not writing about it as…
Thanks for your link about a NASA administrator saying "the shuttle was a mistake". As someone who was a pre-teen during the Apollo area, this warms my heart. However, even is Saturn V was an extraordinary engineering feat, to explore space we needed something much less expensive, much less polluting, much more secure. Perhaps SpaceX fills better this niche, but I hope that we simply become a space species with most…
Why would we ever put most people in orbit? Of the sun sure but then it is just called a planet.
Re: Hilton's 1967 plan for a space hotel
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
People who are saying that is not possible and that it does not make sense economically speaking have won. We are now in hands of managers, not dreamers.
It is possible, perhaps even 10 or 20 years ago, But it isn't economically feasible. You could build or refurbish the ISS into something that looked a Japanese capsule hotel 'fairly cheaply', but getting there still costs millions, we are thousands or 10s of thousands of spacecraft away from making them cheap to produce and run. Hotels on earth aren't exactly money spinners and apart from the zero gravity and looking…
And we need a transportation that is much more economical than rockets, otherwise it will always be very costly to lift a kilogram into space.
Re: Hilton's 1967 plan for a space hotel
#24I don't see the bizarre part. Wikipedia says Barron was born in 1927 when we were still figuring out the basics of aviation, and just a few decades later he was making these plans in the midst of the space race. Considering the rate of progress he had witnessed in his time, it's not very surprising that he expected us to aggressively colonize space in his lifetime. Maybe I have overly romanticized notions of what cou…
Ok, we've taken the bizarre part out of the title above.
Re: Hilton's 1967 plan for a space hotel
#25Moon is the spot for tourists. It's only a day a way! But, the real money maker on the moon is televised sports. Moonball is going to be awesome to watch.
This comment immediately brought to mind the underwater Blitzball opening cinematic from Final Fantasy X.
Re: Hilton's 1967 plan for a space hotel
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
People who are saying that is not possible and that it does not make sense economically speaking have won. We are now in hands of managers, not dreamers.
Bureaucrats, not engineers. The difference being that bureaucrats are there to pour glue over something to stabilise it, whereas engineers are meant to try new things.
A company or government reducing quality and effectiveness over time is not stabilization, but erosion of core principles.
Engineering is innovation and maintenance. Bureaucrats slow good change while pushing to cut corners.
Re: Hilton's 1967 plan for a space hotel
#27Moon is the spot for tourists. It's only a day a way! But, the real money maker on the moon is televised sports. Moonball is going to be awesome to watch.
Low Earth Orbit training for athletes in 2G will be a thing once it's cheap enough. They'll come back to earth absurdly strong.
Re: Hilton's 1967 plan for a space hotel
#28Moon is the spot for tourists. It's only a day a way! But, the real money maker on the moon is televised sports. Moonball is going to be awesome to watch.
Low Earth Orbit training for athletes in 2G will be a thing once it's cheap enough. They'll come back to earth absurdly strong.
Wonder if the added strain (eg on heart?) would reduce their likely life expectancy though?
Re: Hilton's 1967 plan for a space hotel
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Would a manned Mars mission really have been feasible? Is it feasible now? I have no idea, myself. No less than Michael Griffith, * the NASA Administrator* , said in 2007 that the shuttle was a mistake ( https://aviationweek.typepad.com/space/2007/03/human_space_e... >), and that NASA should have instead continuing launching Saturn rockets: >If we had done all this, we would be on Mars today, not writing about it as…
Thanks for your link about a NASA administrator saying "the shuttle was a mistake". As someone who was a pre-teen during the Apollo area, this warms my heart. However, even is Saturn V was an extraordinary engineering feat, to explore space we needed something much less expensive, much less polluting, much more secure. Perhaps SpaceX fills better this niche, but I hope that we simply become a space species with most…
> much less polluting
Isn't the SpaceX Merlin a fuel-rich RP-1 engine too, just like the Rocketdyne F-1? Or is it another source of pollution that you have in mind?
Re: Hilton's 1967 plan for a space hotel
#30Moon is the spot for tourists. It's only a day a way! But, the real money maker on the moon is televised sports. Moonball is going to be awesome to watch.
This comment immediately brought to mind the underwater Blitzball opening cinematic from Final Fantasy X. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOmsorZ1Y1U
that's a cool video thanks for posting link