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Re: FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff

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Much as Freenode Ltd/Andrew Lee may be seen as having taken over Freenode it is clear that disloyal and morally suspect Freenode domain administrators are as much to blame.

Whoever transferred those domains must have known the possible consequences but were clearly not deterred.

Did they inform the community or consult them before?

Re: FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff

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post #4

Much as Freenode Ltd/Andrew Lee may be seen as having taken over Freenode it is clear that disloyal and morally suspect Freenode domain administrators are as much to blame. Whoever transferred those domains must have known the possible consequences but were clearly not deterred. Did they inform the community or consult them before?

You.. you've heard about the whole Libera thing, right? The thing where literally all of existing staff went "We're being legally forced to do the thing. freenode is bad now. we have an alternative available"?

Re: FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff

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post #7
post #4

Much as Freenode Ltd/Andrew Lee may be seen as having taken over Freenode it is clear that disloyal and morally suspect Freenode domain administrators are as much to blame. Whoever transferred those domains must have known the possible consequences but were clearly not deterred. Did they inform the community or consult them before?

You.. you've heard about the whole Libera thing, right? The thing where literally all of existing staff went "We're being legally forced to do the thing. freenode is bad now. we have an alternative available"?

The problem is Freenode was run without any proper legal and management structures in place.

Obviously a lot of its administrators ignored the fact that some admin could simply hock Freenode's domain names to a third party and when Andrew Lee purchases the domains with the intent of profiting from them, they start crying foul.

The blame for the whole debacle lies with Freenode's admins or the people involved in it who should have seen this coming from way off.

It is no different from some venture capitalists trying to profit from the .org domains.

Re: FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You.. you've heard about the whole Libera thing, right? The thing where literally all of existing staff went "We're being legally forced to do the thing. freenode is bad now. we have an alternative available"?

The problem is Freenode was run without any proper legal and management structures in place. Obviously a lot of its administrators ignored the fact that some admin could simply hock Freenode's domain names to a third party and when Andrew Lee purchases the domains with the intent of profiting from them, they start crying foul. The blame for the whole debacle lies with Freenode's admins or the people involved in it wh…

Well, yes; the head of the organisation gave away the domains in exchange for a job. Everyone gets into a tight spot sometime; Freenode wasn't structured to deal with that challenge.

Re: FSF and GNU channels seized by Freenode staff

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is Freenode was run without any proper legal and management structures in place. Obviously a lot of its administrators ignored the fact that some admin could simply hock Freenode's domain names to a third party and when Andrew Lee purchases the domains with the intent of profiting from them, they start crying foul. The blame for the whole debacle lies with Freenode's admins or the people involved in it wh…

Well, yes; the head of the organisation gave away the domains in exchange for a job. Everyone gets into a tight spot sometime; Freenode wasn't structured to deal with that challenge.

Why didn't they appeal to the community for funds via a GofundMe or something?

I'm sure they would have got some support

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