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Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things have changed

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Re: Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things have changed

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Oh good. Maybe they can come back to India and develop the indigenous software industry.

India has some amazing tech getting made. For instance Hasura. I think India is doing to software what China has done to manufacturing.

Re: Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things have changed

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India somehow had stumbled and took a turn towards the Hindu right wing majoritarianism/ultra nationalism. It has certainly caused long term effects, the pace of reforms has slowed down considerably. Major policy decisions seems to be stuck in limbo for years, for example regarding Walmart: atleast for 10 years Walmart trying to start retail operations in India, but government hasn't given clarity on policy. Similarly in many many other fields and subjects there has been policy paralysis for last 10 years if not for more.

Not to mension the amount of repression etc the present ruling party indulges in..

15 years ago India looked like it would evolve into a country and society with liberal western values, but it hasn't made progress in recent years, but rather it has regressed.

Re: Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things have changed

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This is a theme that will apply in a variety of different areas, well beyond Silicon Valley. There was a sense in the late couple of decades that India will become a faithful follower of US practices (if not policies) with its easily accessible population for everything from movies to ecommerce, food chains to apparel brands and more. The implied sense was that the rapidly growing middle-class would want to mimic (or…

India is arguably faithfully following the US here, because Modi's populism has more than a few parallels to Trump.

Given the timelines involved, I'd say it's more likely that not that Modi is following in the footsteps of Xi Jinping. In fact most of Asia is in the hands of some kind of ethno-nationalist leader, from Duterte in the Phillipines to Suga in Japan, Xi in China or Jae-In in S. Korea. Modi is not really exceptional when viewed on the scale of other asian leaders. But Asia has always had a much more ethno-nationalist bent, so it may be surprising to people who compare Indian politics to those of Western Europe. Even western darlings like Aung San Suu Kyi, once in power, turned out to be of a strong ethno-nationalist bent, which I'm sure shocked a lot of her supporters in the West.

Re: Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things have changed

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I see this as a propaganda piece. The unique problem with India is that, a decade ago, it had a small but highly educated, privileged urban population, spread across a handful of cities, who are the most vocal in national media and social media. This was the situation when SV companies made inroads to India. Then came the mobile revolution and the availability of smartphones coupled with dead cheap internet. The rura…

> I see this as a propaganda piece. I tend to agree. I've worked in SV a long time, and a majority of non-US-born coworkers remain Indian. I see no evidence of this changing, so I find it implausible that slate has it's finger on the pulse of tech and is detecting a weakening of the role of Indian programmers, nor have I observed any decline in the quality or usefulness of Indian programmers, which is ultimately what…

I think the piece is about India the country, not Indian expats though?

Re: Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things have changed

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After the tech giants' activities in the 2020 US election, damn right the Indians should be muscling in. These companies are basically foreign media companies deeply integrating with the population in a way never before seen. They will eventually move against conservative governments politically.

If anything, the Indian government doesn't understand the threat being posed to them.

Re: Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things have changed

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I want to call out that while the implication in the title might be true, nothing in the article provides any proof. By proof, I mean something like a quote from a big tech honcho to the effect of 'I don't see a future in India'. The article just spouts recent tech happenings in the last 3 years or so (chronologically beginning with Facebook's troubles pushing Free Basics on the Indian market, rightfully rejected)

Re: Silicon Valley thought India was its future, now things have changed

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OMG the world is shrinking for SV.

As US gets deeper and deeper into its Cultural Revolution more and more countries with strong cultural identity do not follow and become more and more selective in adopting US model - China, Iran, Russia, India, Europe...

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