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Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Windows definitely needs improving. I tried the Gnome 40 desktop recently and it's much more polished, consistent and refined.

Does the file chooser show thumbnails yet?

Immediately pressed ctrl+o when I read this. Went to "Images" folder. Yes, thumbnails are there.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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> There is little doubt that the system will be called Windows 11, but it may still not be so. For some reason my gut says it won't be called Windows 11. I have a feeling it will be called something confusing or unappealing. Love MS products but they always fell short with branding.

I think it will be just Windows. Just like Xbox is now Xbox with different flavors called either series X or series S.

Those "flavors" are still part of the name. That doesn't make it any simpler than XBox One [S/X].

Similarly I'd be surprised if the next Windows would be only named that. My guess is they'll just add something to Windows 10. After all from what I gathered it's mostly an upgraded Windows 10. Though Windows 10X is out, they already burned that one.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly, support is starting to slip in major applications. For example you can't install Python 3.9 on Windows 7.

I run into this a bit - it can be a problem or not depending. I use a Linux laptop for development, and even have a Windows XP virtualbox for a workflow program that I can't get to run on newer Windows OSs - it's needed for legacy apps. Using Windows 7 on a PC I can only use a version 3 series version of GnuCash, not the latest version 4 release, which is available to Windows 10, but my Linux distro (OpenSuse) only h…

I use Windows 7 on my 2012 desktop, Mac on my laptops, and Linux for some of my own personal development. At this point, my desktop is a glorified web browser but I still mainly use that because I like it the best. Since I don't play games on my computers, I've yet to find a reason to switch either my hardware or software on my Windows system.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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I'll be honest. I kinda lost track of windows, android, iOS versions at some point. And I think that's probably ok... I use it, it works, there ya go. Most everything I do really isn't OS dependent. I do fondly remember the days when OS upgrades was a huge change. I'll always fondly think of the Rolling Stone's "Start Me Up" and trying out OS/2 and various Linux flavors and so on. I used to spend HOURS customizing my…

Personally I don't think so. Every time I download and install from an Windows ISO it seems worse. Right out of the bat there is a page where you need to uncheck all the spyware crap and there are so many it scrolls. They also make it so a normal local user is presented like a somewhat inferior experience than their web login. Then you have to fill in obligatory 3 recovery questions even if you are confident in your…

> Right out of the bat there is a page where you need to uncheck all the spyware crap and there are so many it scrolls.

This also doesn't even remotely turn off all of the spyware and phone-home, and you have to run something like WPD after install to finish the job.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

#105
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Wasn't Windows 10 supposed to be the last Windows version ever? As in it was going to be evergreen? Did I imagine that? Edit: Yeah I didn't imagine it https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-ve...

My personal theory is that Microsoft probably thought Apple would stay on 10 forever, but with M1 macOS moved to 11. 11 > 10...

They jumped from 8 to 10 for the same reasons after all

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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post #9

Windows definitely needs improving. I tried the Gnome 40 desktop recently and it's much more polished, consistent and refined.

Do multiple displays actually work yet? ie. Can you plug-in laptop to two displays, arrange windows, and then disconnect and reconnect and have the windows in the same place?

Multiple displays definitely work, but I had to check regarding your question about screen arrangement. That works.

Gnome version 3.38.3 Ubuntu 20.10 Thinkpad X1 Carbon 6th gen rigged to a Dell thunderbolt dock Monitor 1 from dock via hdmi Monitor 2 from dock via displayport

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

#107
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, shows thumbnails for pictures, videos, pdfs etc. More formats than Windows in fact. Windows has been standing still, the rest of the world hasn't. EDIT: I used "Files", not the file picker.

I am using GNOME 40 and I just opened a file picker in Totem, the official video player. I did not find a way to switch the file picker from "Details" mode (one line per file, with size/type columns and a very very small thumbnail) to a "grid thumbnail" mode where they would be recognizable. The related bug is still open at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/233 , so I don't think this has been fixed.

Ah yes I used "Files" and not the file picker. I guess the file picker is part of GTK and therefore cannot use the rest of the gnome infrastructure?

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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> There is little doubt that the system will be called Windows 11, but it may still not be so. For some reason my gut says it won't be called Windows 11. I have a feeling it will be called something confusing or unappealing. Love MS products but they always fell short with branding.

Are we past the naming phase for Windows X or Windows One?

Single letters are cool again, I wouldn't be surprised if it's something like W1 or M11

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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I wonder if this is simply a financial decision to get more money out of institutions that are using win10 and need the support... I think there is no technical reason for this move, because the Windows core code base does not seem to have changed that much since Windows 10 - or even Vista/2000 - and there are no breakthrough changes coming that I'm aware of. This also seems like a bit of a back paddling move after having announced that Win10 be essentially a rolling release. In any case I don't mind either way, because I don't use Windows, but it looks like it could again cost millions of tax payer money to our state's institutions that somehow can't wane themselves of Windows, even though alternatives exist.
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