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Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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I think he was joking. Windows 7 is EOL

there are people on this cursed earth who roll with windows 2000 on prod, you know?

I don't trust those new-fangled operating systems.

Until recently, we had a CNC lathe at work powered by a VAXstation 3100 running (if memory serves) VAX/VMS 5.3... (Released in the late eighties)

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Actually I don’t think it is. Microsoft promise way ahead of time, fail to deliver, reduce scope, kick out a broken half finished product, get the customers to beta test it, change their mind on the direction of the entire organisation in that space and generally leave everyone confused and a bit burned out. This happens every time and has done for the last 20 years. Even the latest reinvention has just increased the…

Microsoft lets you pirate their OS for free, you ungrateful punk. Enjoy dropping 3000$ for an equivalent Apple system. I'm sure you'll find the marketing from Cupertino to be more accurate. Wait, they are the quintessential company built on marketing..

I use both platforms (and Linux). What’s your point?

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Most marketing is.

Actually I don’t think it is. Microsoft promise way ahead of time, fail to deliver, reduce scope, kick out a broken half finished product, get the customers to beta test it, change their mind on the direction of the entire organisation in that space and generally leave everyone confused and a bit burned out. This happens every time and has done for the last 20 years. Even the latest reinvention has just increased the…

The windows hating is so boring and childish. Windows, and particularly Windows 10, is a very good OS. It's not even open source advocates that dislike it so much. I think most Linux users would admit Windows is a solid option, if just not for them. It's usually just Mac fans.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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I'll be honest. I kinda lost track of windows, android, iOS versions at some point. And I think that's probably ok... I use it, it works, there ya go. Most everything I do really isn't OS dependent. I do fondly remember the days when OS upgrades was a huge change. I'll always fondly think of the Rolling Stone's "Start Me Up" and trying out OS/2 and various Linux flavors and so on. I used to spend HOURS customizing my…

Reminds me of a comment an FPS reviewer journalist made about keybindings. Something like "At some points I stopped rebinding my keys for every game I review, it's frustrating and time consuming. I just go with the flow now and basta. Bonus point: in game conventions/shows (e3, etcs, etc.) I can jump right in and be at ease, not relying on my 25 years old favourite bindings.".

Agreed. For most software I just want it to tell me how it thinks I should use it. Being flexible is awesome, but doing it the way they want often is faster. I can customize later.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Yep, shows thumbnails for pictures, videos, pdfs etc. More formats than Windows in fact. Windows has been standing still, the rest of the world hasn't. EDIT: I used "Files", not the file picker.

Thumbnail preview is a _massive_ attack surface. All those RCEs in JPEGs, MP4s, PDFs etc are now potentially immediately executed upon displaying the file. No thanks.

Lol. Although, at least for open source, by the time a hacker has an exploit prepared, someone will have rewritten the code.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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I'll be honest. I kinda lost track of windows, android, iOS versions at some point. And I think that's probably ok... I use it, it works, there ya go. Most everything I do really isn't OS dependent. I do fondly remember the days when OS upgrades was a huge change. I'll always fondly think of the Rolling Stone's "Start Me Up" and trying out OS/2 and various Linux flavors and so on. I used to spend HOURS customizing my…

For home and cubicle use, including almost all SW development I totally agree.

On the other hand, I support a lot of production lines and test tools running Windows-based applications and there are two big conflicting drivers:

1) specialized hardware often comes with brittle SW and the defensive move is to not upgrade Windows hardly ever

vs.

2) vulnerabilities fixed in newer OS versions are often required by our IT staff, you don't want a production line to go down because of WannaCry or whatever

So often we disconnect ancient (e.g. Windows XP!) systems from the network and move files by thumb drive or even floppy

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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The only thing I really notice is the settings ... app, box, thing, (not sure what to call it even) is wonky. Seems to get wonky-er all the time. But I'm hardly ever in there. That's really the major change I notice. The little UI changes in menu or task bar I find easy enough to just adjust and so forth whenever I need to do so. Mostly I just turn them off and doing so doesn't really bother me.

That reminds me there are two control panels. One with the trendy web page style (the pretty one) and the other using the old Windows 7 style (the useful control panel). And I suspect they know its terrible. What other reason would they reserve the the good stuff like the LTSC version to premium enterprise contracts? People who purchase and run Windows Pro and Windows Home are literally paying to feed the monstrous M…

It’s obnoxious because while it seems like they keep adding features to the former that I’m used to using the latter for.

The other day, I was trying to set a static IP on a VM. Apparently the new Setting app has an option, but for whatever reason, it would change the IP settings. So I went into the classic network adapter options and set it there. That seemed to work, but the Settings app still didn’t show the adapter configured with a static IP. So I ran up config, and everything checked out thankfully.

Old one is still cooler because you can add custom items in it :^)

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