How is that even an issue for the HN-folks? This clearly takes power away from amazon, as for example this helps with growing business relations outside of amazon (you might start buying directly from the seller at some point).
Legislation would unmask third-party sellers, but Amazon is fighting it
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Re: Legislation would unmask third-party sellers, but Amazon is fighting it
#12This whole legislation is a huge waste of time as a way to fight fraud and fake products. Do you really expect the consumer to try to track down some person via their address (which may be a PO Box) and try to sue them, only to have them say their merchandise was actually mixed with others and so they are not liable? The much better version is to make Amazon fully liable for everything they sell, even third party mer…
Amazon doesn't want to be liable for ANYTHING, they just want to sell stuff and make money any way they can. The business/GOP view of the world is that responsibility is for individuals not corporations. Freeing corporations so they can do whatever they want without fear.
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Re: Legislation would unmask third-party sellers, but Amazon is fighting it
#13This whole legislation is a huge waste of time as a way to fight fraud and fake products. Do you really expect the consumer to try to track down some person via their address (which may be a PO Box) and try to sue them, only to have them say their merchandise was actually mixed with others and so they are not liable? The much better version is to make Amazon fully liable for everything they sell, even third party mer…
I don’t expect consumers to track down fake Ball lids and Apple chargers. I expect Ball and Apple to do that.
In civilized countries you have consumer watchdogs that deal with fraud and unsafe products so the consumer doesn't have to. The point of the law isn't to catch criminals, it's to prevent crime.
Re: Legislation would unmask third-party sellers, but Amazon is fighting it
#14This whole legislation is a huge waste of time as a way to fight fraud and fake products. Do you really expect the consumer to try to track down some person via their address (which may be a PO Box) and try to sue them, only to have them say their merchandise was actually mixed with others and so they are not liable? The much better version is to make Amazon fully liable for everything they sell, even third party mer…
I don’t expect consumers to track down fake Ball lids and Apple chargers. I expect Ball and Apple to do that.
I expect amazon to not sell them and to get as sued by Apple and Ball if they do
Re: Legislation would unmask third-party sellers, but Amazon is fighting it
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my experience, a "real" address is needed somewhere. PO Boxes are fine for many things, but for process service, etc. the part of your state government that is responsible for business entities will want a real address.
So you've never heard of competitive addressing, then. Instead of PO BOX 1234, Anytown, ST USA you use Street Address of Post Office, Unit # PO BOX Number, Anytown ST USA. In addition to giving you a "real" street address, it works for any services unable to otherwise deliver to a PO BOX like UPS, Fedex or DHL, because as long as they deliver during business hours, the post office will sign for your package. I use th…
The only reason people on HN have hate for the post office is they are influenced by capitalists who want another industry to “disrupt.” American oligarchs have been declaring war on public services since the New Deal, and over time American workers have sadly been propagandized to buy into it.
As a result, the U.S. Post Office is not what it used to be (it used to offer banking services!!!) but it’s still one of the best things we have left. Not to mention its glowing record of equal employment.
Re: Legislation would unmask third-party sellers, but Amazon is fighting it
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you've never heard of competitive addressing, then. Instead of PO BOX 1234, Anytown, ST USA you use Street Address of Post Office, Unit # PO BOX Number, Anytown ST USA. In addition to giving you a "real" street address, it works for any services unable to otherwise deliver to a PO BOX like UPS, Fedex or DHL, because as long as they deliver during business hours, the post office will sign for your package. I use th…
The only reason people on HN have hate for the post office is they are influenced by capitalists who want another industry to “disrupt.” American oligarchs have been declaring war on public services since the New Deal, and over time American workers have sadly been propagandized to buy into it. As a result, the U.S. Post Office is not what it used to be (it used to offer banking services!!!) but it’s still one of the…
Someone on HN once mentioned that anti-USPO plays are likely aimed at "freeing up" all the prime real estate the USPO owns in cities all over the country for private buyers, which was the thing that finally made some people and groups' evident hate and ill-wishing for the post office make sense to me. I'm sure killing some competition is also a factor for certain interests, but that was never enough, I thought, to explain all the forces working against them.
Re: Legislation would unmask third-party sellers, but Amazon is fighting it
#17How is that even an issue for the HN-folks? This clearly takes power away from amazon, as for example this helps with growing business relations outside of amazon (you might start buying directly from the seller at some point).
Everyone on this forum is a temporarily embarrassed big tech founder/CEO who hates regulations which let the little guys compete.
Re: Legislation would unmask third-party sellers, but Amazon is fighting it
#18An important and related fact, addressed in the article, is that Amazon currently escapes consumer product liability laws because they are neither seller nor manufacturer. But they also cannot tell you with any degree of precision who the seller or manufacturer is.
There is a public interest in making /someone/ liable for defective products, as it provides a incentive for sellers to do due diligence on what they sell.
The party most able to root out sellers of defective or counterfeit goods is probably Amazon, but they currently have no incentive to do so as the liability is offloaded to judgement-proof Marketplace sellers.
Amazon's business innovation here is figuring out how to run a multi billion dollar retail business without product liability, and that's negative for society.
Re: Legislation would unmask third-party sellers, but Amazon is fighting it
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my experience, a "real" address is needed somewhere. PO Boxes are fine for many things, but for process service, etc. the part of your state government that is responsible for business entities will want a real address.
So you've never heard of competitive addressing, then. Instead of PO BOX 1234, Anytown, ST USA you use Street Address of Post Office, Unit # PO BOX Number, Anytown ST USA. In addition to giving you a "real" street address, it works for any services unable to otherwise deliver to a PO BOX like UPS, Fedex or DHL, because as long as they deliver during business hours, the post office will sign for your package. I use th…
the USPS consistently has the highest favorability rating of any government agency, at 91%: https://federalnewsnetwork.com/agency-oversight/2021/04/usps...
Re: Legislation would unmask third-party sellers, but Amazon is fighting it
#20I recently purchased a set of full ear headphones with boom microphone from Amazon. From a 'five star' reviewed product and vendor. It came with a printed piece of paper in the box from the vendor offering a $15 gift card if I left a five star review for the product and then sent a screenshot to the company. Such shady behavior.
The headphones are only average quality.