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German environmental groups file objection against Tesla gigafactory permit

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Re: German environmental groups file objection against Tesla gigafactory permit

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It’s difficult to strike a balance between hysteria and justified skepticism. Especially with topics like electric cars.

However, I believe this isn’t really about the environment. It’s about corruption, real or imaginary. People are afraid that companies, especially big companies, have it all too easy with the bureaucratic process, while individuals or small companies are stonewalled at every turn.

If it makes municipality money, anything goes. Otherwise, not so much.

Re: German environmental groups file objection against Tesla gigafactory permit

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Sorry spider, too bad. Turns out thousands of jobs and advancing mankind is more important than you.

If the only metric you care about is job creation.... We let mega corps rule for the best part of the last century and we all know how it ended. Companies aren't here to create jobs and help mankind, they're here to make money

Maybe this is controversial on HN, but I care more about my community than a spider

Re: German environmental groups file objection against Tesla gigafactory permit

#23

Goes to show how "green" Tesla is outside of the brainwashed choir.

The details are important, and we should make a distinction between the environment-friendliness of Tesla products and their manufacturing sites.

I think it is preferable to centralize the environmental impact so that it is easier to monitor and deal with.

Re: German environmental groups file objection against Tesla gigafactory permit

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Environmental groups file objections against every single major project in Germany. That's probably one of the reasons why major infrastructure projects in Germany never finish on time. I'm all for environment, but sometimes these complaints are just for complaint's sake.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if the competition (VW and the likes) were nudging these groups. They often end up being shills and proxies.

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Environmental groups file objections against every single major project in democratic countries, where it's their right to do so. Occasionally, the objection is worthwhile.

And, every time, the objections drive up costs and delay results.

and many people are realizing that the environment should be considered over costs and deadlines

Re: German environmental groups file objection against Tesla gigafactory permit

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Environmental groups file objections against every single major project in Germany. That's probably one of the reasons why major infrastructure projects in Germany never finish on time. I'm all for environment, but sometimes these complaints are just for complaint's sake.

Environmental groups file objections against every single major project in democratic countries, where it's their right to do so. Occasionally, the objection is worthwhile.

"The boy who cried wolf." They need to be more selective if they want to be taken seriously. Maybe this one is serious, but how are we to know if they fight everything?

Re: German environmental groups file objection against Tesla gigafactory permit

#28
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Everyone wants a green future as long as it's manufacturer in Africa or Asia

Lol I don't think any environmental group would argument that. More like there will be no green future with personal vehicles, electric or not.

I think you are straw-manning environmental groups here. It seems reasonable to have personal vehicles without climate change or other environmental damage.

Re: German environmental groups file objection against Tesla gigafactory permit

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Environmental groups file objections against every single major project in Germany. That's probably one of the reasons why major infrastructure projects in Germany never finish on time. I'm all for environment, but sometimes these complaints are just for complaint's sake.

Well building a battery factory in EUs worst CO2 polluter kinda makes no sense from an environmental viewpoint. Better to build it in Sweden or France which have a heavy Nuclear/Hydro mix in their grid.

Re: German environmental groups file objection against Tesla gigafactory permit

#30
Good luck setting up in Germany a manufactury alternative to Daimler, BMW, Audi, or VW. It's literally a threat to their existence and they'll react accordingly. Sometimes it shows how disconnected Americans are from the local European realities. Even if Tesla will succeed they'll have to fly workers from Ukraine, Branderburg is a demographical desert. Czechia, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania are desperate to subcontract for automotive, they'll literally suck every dick and rubberstamp every papper to have it on their soil.
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