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What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

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Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#591
Reading the headline: I could summon a car and have it take me anywhere for only $8.50 an hour? That's a freaking steal and Uber is in serious-as-a-heart-attack trouble.

Reading the article: Oh this is charging me to use a feature in a car I already own, okay great, I will continue never owning a Volkswagen.

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#592
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With that pricepoint, maybe you don't need to implement actual autonomous driving, but instead it could be implemented by employing millions of dronepilots in some far away country that drive your car for you.

A lot of the early 'voice recognition' did this; the audio went real-time to far-away countries where a human would press the appropriate buttons.

Makes me wonder what those humans are now doing for a living.

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#593
post #26

With that pricepoint, maybe you don't need to implement actual autonomous driving, but instead it could be implemented by employing millions of dronepilots in some far away country that drive your car for you.

That was literally my first idea after reading the title. I hope this plan meets a sad ending.

I also see people very quickly stop using their autopilot, as you will think ca. twice a day: "so do I really want to spend 8.50 right now?"

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#594
What a bummer when every product turns into subscription service and a thing you don't actually own. Products-as-subscriptions are nice options at times, but even then I'd prefer for them to always be options, along with the option of owning outright.

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post #551

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea what you are talking about here. Cars sometimes lose features between model years, or even during mid year refreshes. Tesla is no pioneer there.

Tesla has gimped range on cars that were already sold with an OTA update. This is far different from a mid-year refresh.

That's fair, and the limited charging speeds have been even more significant at times. This is one of the big downsides of the warranty being so weak, IMO.

Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#596
post #551

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea what you are talking about here. Cars sometimes lose features between model years, or even during mid year refreshes. Tesla is no pioneer there.

I'm talking about OTAs being pushed to cars that have already been purchased. Not all of them add features. Some have removed or modified features in ways that owners did not want. OTAs are great when they add features. They suck when they remove/alter ones you previously liked.

Yeah, that's fair. Not being able to opt out of them can be a problem. Though its tough as there are some safety related ones mixed in with the others.

Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#597

I'll never understand why we're hell-bent on making sure people are driving around in cars. Instead of solving the problem of commuting by not having cars and by building better, we're just making commuting better and more optimized. It's so stupid. We should be making it so that you don't have to commute, not that you can do more work while you commute or w/e.

Driving is faster, your car is available virtually 24/7, you own(many animals like owning things) your car, you can personalize your car - in short, cars are personal, commuting is public. Also time is money.

> Driving is faster

It's not, if you build correctly. It's only "faster" when you spread things out into suburbia.

Is it faster for you to get in your car and drive next door or to just walk over there?

Of course its faster to walk.

Walking is faster.

You can't just say "driving is faster" without qualifications.

> your car is available virtually 24/7

So are your legs. Walk and bike.

I don't see the relevance of many of these other items you mention. Who cares if you can personalize your car? I'm not saying cars should be banned, but we should stop optimizing for them at the expense of everything else, especially when they aren't necessary.

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#598

I'll never understand why we're hell-bent on making sure people are driving around in cars. Instead of solving the problem of commuting by not having cars and by building better, we're just making commuting better and more optimized. It's so stupid. We should be making it so that you don't have to commute, not that you can do more work while you commute or w/e.

People enjoy going to concerts, restaurants, seeing their family, etc.

Yea so you just go do those things. I'm not sure what this has to do with driving or commuting to a job on the highway?

Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#599

I think it is a great idea for bringing autonomous cars to the market. Think about it: take a VW that costs $25k today. Now, fast forward 10 years and you can buy roughly the same car for roughly the same price but with autonomy-as-a-service. First and foremost, it's still a car worth $25k. And if it's your first autonomous car, you will naturally be sceptical if it's worth it. Getting you to pay $10k extra may be a…

ROFLMAO you think the car will be roughly the same price.

Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#600
post #44

I just wish we would bring back car trains. I like driving. I want to drive. There are some incredible roads in the places I go to, and I want to drive on them. However, I don’t care much for the long motorway drives through Europe that I need to do to take me to the interesting places. I want to drive my car on to a train in Kraków, hang out in the restaurant for several hours, and then drive off the train in Gdańsk…

In Finland, it's popular to take your car in a train from Helsinki or Turku in the south to Rovaniemi in the north overnight. There are also cargo trains that carry trucks from the coastal harbours to inland railway stations.

For reference, that'd be around 800 km by road.
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