Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines
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Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines
#2It'd be nice if they mentioned how many cases there were, compared to number of shots.
Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines
#3Anecdote: I had this reaction to the 2nd dose of the Pfizer vaccine, saw a cardiologist and she mentioned that she’s been seeing this quite a bit after the second dose. Have had to lay low for a month, but it seems like the symptoms are finally passing.
Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines
#4Can the government present anything in a useful manner?
The most important information, i.e. if the young men engaged in heavy sports right after getting the vaccine, is missing.
Heavy sports is obviously also dangerous while recovering from the flu.
But the disorganized chaotic government presentation doesn't give any useful information.
Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines
#5It'd be nice if they mentioned how many cases there were, compared to number of shots.
Agreed. Context matters here.
I'd hate for this to get blown out of proportion like the blood clot issue did, causing massive confidence declines in places all over, especially those struggling to roll out vaccines and keep their COVID cases under control.
Obviously, if the numbers are alarming, we must react accordingly.
Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines
#6The interesting table with absolute numbers is on page 18 of [0]. Expected and observed cases are cases of myocarditis / pericarditis here. Crude rate is the number of cases per 1 million administered doses. Use landscape mode if you are reading this from a mobile device, the table is narrow enough for that.
Age group Doses Crude Expected Observed
administ. rate cases cases
12–15 yrs 134,041 22.4 0–1 2
16–17 yrs 2,258,932 35.0 2–19 79
18–24 yrs 9,776,719 20.6 8–83 196
Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines
#7Any information on the rate of myocarditis after vaccination vs myocarditis after infection?
Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines
#8It'd be nice if they mentioned how many cases there were, compared to number of shots.
They do, in this exact article. 283 cases were noted in the VAERS database, there are about 130 million fully vaccinated people in the US.
I assume they don't track healthy people in the database of adverse vaccination reactions.
Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines
#9Maybe has to do with testing it on healthy people who doesn't represent general population?
Re: Heart inflammation cases in young men higher than expected after mRNA vaccines
#10Anecdote: I had this reaction to the 2nd dose of the Pfizer vaccine, saw a cardiologist and she mentioned that she’s been seeing this quite a bit after the second dose. Have had to lay low for a month, but it seems like the symptoms are finally passing.
What kind of symptoms makes one go to a cardiologist? Just curious