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Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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Post by oblio »

munk-a wrote: post #135
dreyfan wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not very satisfying so definitely not retire early. However, it's a good way to raise the equivalent of a seed round without having to give up any equity and simultaneously execute on practical customer discovery regarding the needs of modern engineering teams in a remote-only world.

There were a lot of big words there but am I right at reading your statement as - "I'm exploiting employers so that I can found a start up that is able to monitor truant employees?"

Takes a thief to catch a thief :-))

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Post by doublerabbit »

gerdesj wrote: post #147
magneticnorth wrote: post #12

I am really curious to see where we'll be in a year, two, three down the line wrt remote/office/hybrid work at major companies. This forced experiment has had some surprising outcomes about the effectiveness of remote workplaces, but working from home for only a year, in pandemic conditions, is clearly not the same as indefinitely in normal times. But there's reason to think that may go even better, not worse; I am r…

"but working from home for only a year, in pandemic conditions" About 18 months here (UK.) I'm a business owner (IT services) and I now do see the value of WFH. I really, really know the upsides and the downsides. My staff don't go off the boil when they are at home - they lose it and drift off when they don't feel ... loved. Call it what you will but when you are sat in a room at home which may not be very comfortab…

> My staff don't go off the boil when they are at home - they lose it and drift off when they don't feel ... loved.

I just want my own personal home space back. Powering down the laptop for the weekend and hiding it is not the same as leaving it locked up at the office. With WFH and my single bedroom apartment, I feel I've lost privacy, personal space that I had once earned.

And it's driving my depression insane knowing my work and personal are all in the same room. WFH works if you can separate yourself from your person quarters but when you can't it really bites.

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Post by WJW »

jarcoal wrote: post #120
losteric wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We can be full time remote but still occasionally grab a coffee with coworkers if that's convenient for folks. +1 this sentence; personally, I'm not interested in the fully distributed model espoused by some evangelists. I still desire physical proximity, with just-enough/just-in-time physical interactions as determined by myself (and relevant coworkers). I would love working for a business that offers something li…

Yep, I’ve been referring to this as “work locally”, and I also feel this is an ideal balance, although it does limit your access to talent.

Maybe it limits your access to talent, but it will surely expand your access to experienced employees.

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Post by whiskyant »

rcpt wrote: post #375
speedgoose wrote: post #366

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Where are these remote jobs paying 500k?

Obviously holding down 3 staff engineer jobs at FANG. No problem. Everyone's doing it now c'mon ya doofus

Even top of band senior pay can do $500k at FANG.

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Post by saiya-jin »

woeirua wrote: post #296
UncleOxidant wrote: post #164

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Why should they? Unless it's some kind of contract I don't think you can be sued for not doing your job - you can be fired (and likely would be), but incompetence doesn't generally lead to legal problems.

Many employment contracts expressly forbid you from accepting other employment without prior authorization from the company. If his employment contracts contain that provision, then he would definitely be in breach. But... damages would probably be limited to just the salary that the company paid.

Definitely true for most high-paying companies (meaning experienced enough to not have employment contract full of beginner's holes like this).

Explicitly forbidding another full time employment, full rights on all intellectual property, non-competing agreements etc. Also explicitly expecting to work ie 40 hours.

I would take this with grain of salt the size of Jupiter, since such behavior would quickly show on any employment feedback source that any proper company hiring should check beforehand. Being blacklisted forever for well-paying companies will bite back very quickly too.

In most of the Europe, I believe this would be illegal simply due to amount of work expected - there are hard limits on that.

If true regardless, it might not be the smartest idea to brag online about committing multiple frauds, which casts another doubt about the whole story.

Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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Post by pzh »

majormajor wrote: post #88
dreyfan wrote: post #75

I currently have 10 fully remote engineering jobs. The bar is so low, oversight is non-existent, and everyone is so forgiving for under performance I can coast about 4-8 weeks before a given job fires me. Currently on a $1.5M run-rate for comp this year. And the interviewing process is so much faster today, companies are desperate, it takes me 2-3hrs of total effort to land a new job with thousands to chose from.

I'm assuming this is facetious, but... high performers are potentially big winners in a remote world. Let's say someone gets 5x the person next to them done. Very few companies will pay them 5x. Maybe double... But if they can manage their time well enough to get X done in some fraction of the time, they could realistically do two or three full time jobs worth of "normal" work, and increase their pay - and income sec…

This is all good if you’re just given sprint tasks and expected to crank out code for them without much supervision. What happens when any 2 of the 5 jobs decide to schedule a recurring meeting at the same time?

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Post by admissionsguy »

55555 wrote: post #280
ribosometronome wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn't the video game industry fairly impacted by the transition?

Investment banks have also been hurt by this, although many would argue this has been a good thing. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-01-13/fraud-... But you can begin to see some limits of remote work. Obviously military units shouldn't be training remotely. The bonding is too important.

Very interesting, it's the first concrete example of the damage to social cohesion due to covid restrictions I've seen described. It is portrayed in a positive light (I suppose) in the article, though the anecdotal examples I know from real life are rather dark.

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Post by elevenoh »

magneticnorth wrote: post #12

I am really curious to see where we'll be in a year, two, three down the line wrt remote/office/hybrid work at major companies. This forced experiment has had some surprising outcomes about the effectiveness of remote workplaces, but working from home for only a year, in pandemic conditions, is clearly not the same as indefinitely in normal times. But there's reason to think that may go even better, not worse; I am r…

On this topic:

Are people.. better humans when spending more time in solitude & less around others where cognitively-draining politics is inevitable?

Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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Post by a10c »

crvdgc wrote: post #155
dreyfan wrote: post #75

I currently have 10 fully remote engineering jobs. The bar is so low, oversight is non-existent, and everyone is so forgiving for under performance I can coast about 4-8 weeks before a given job fires me. Currently on a $1.5M run-rate for comp this year. And the interviewing process is so much faster today, companies are desperate, it takes me 2-3hrs of total effort to land a new job with thousands to chose from.

Too bad you can write only one of those positions on your resume.

At $1.5M a year compensation somehow I don't think their resume is at the top of the priority list.
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