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What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

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Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

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With that pricepoint, maybe you don't need to implement actual autonomous driving, but instead it could be implemented by employing millions of dronepilots in some far away country that drive your car for you.

Would probably do a considerably better job than actual autonomous driving for the foreseeable future too.

There's a future for all these gaming addicted youths after all.

Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#42
post #26

With that pricepoint, maybe you don't need to implement actual autonomous driving, but instead it could be implemented by employing millions of dronepilots in some far away country that drive your car for you.

Like in Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age. Poorly paid actors in boxes acting as voice assistants.

Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

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post #40
post #26

With that pricepoint, maybe you don't need to implement actual autonomous driving, but instead it could be implemented by employing millions of dronepilots in some far away country that drive your car for you.

latency might be an issue though

Not to mention connectivity

Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#44

I just wish we would bring back car trains. I like driving. I want to drive. There are some incredible roads in the places I go to, and I want to drive on them. However, I don’t care much for the long motorway drives through Europe that I need to do to take me to the interesting places. I want to drive my car on to a train in Kraków, hang out in the restaurant for several hours, and then drive off the train in Gdańsk…

In Finland, it's popular to take your car in a train from Helsinki or Turku in the south to Rovaniemi in the north overnight. There are also cargo trains that carry trucks from the coastal harbours to inland railway stations.

Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#46
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Ownership", like "privacy", just doesn't make sense in the modern complex world.

Is this satire or sarcasm or something? Genuinely asking, as it is not clear to me.

Almost certainly satire.

The way I'd explain it, is both ownership and privacy can be boiled down to some simplified abstract terms to show that society benefits more when they are traded away for convenience or price.

However, in practice and in history, this is not the case, and those tradeoffs almost always result in a worse quality of life and economic standpoint for the individual, and more profit, power, and control for the governments and corporations that took those benefits away from the people.

Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#47

This would be ideal for myself. I spend $1500/year on insurance and about $1000 in gas on a car I barely ever drive. I am slow to get ready and leave the house as well. If this thing could just show up at my doorstep and drive me to the grocery store and back every couple of weeks for a few dollars that would be incredible! Plus I don't have to make smalltalk with a driver, bonus! Not to mention the space I would sav…

How is the gas price relevant? If you're paying $1000 worth of gas a year, surely you're using $1000 of gas?

Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#48
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I despise the whole sharing economy. I prefer the good old days where i own everything i use.

Maybe that's just not the resource efficient way going forward. Maybe in the future people will laugh at the idea of buying 2 tons of steel to sit around doing nothing for 95% of it's lifetime.

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Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#49
Having finally had a chance to test-"drive" an advanced autopilot Tesla last weekend, I can confidently say at the current level of that tech I would pay less than nothing. At best (cruising down a well-marked highway) it was only slightly worse than useless, taking a different line in the lane than I considered optimal, leaving me feeling a background level of apprehension. From there it ranged through frustrating, as it took forever to do anything, to jarring, as it would for example suddenly slam on the brakes because it just noticed it was passing a parked car.

If I had a regular commute and self-driving was considerably beyond human competence I'd love to have it, but I don't see either one happening any time soon!

Re: What would you pay for autonomous driving? Volkswagen hopes $8.50 per hour

#50
post #26

With that pricepoint, maybe you don't need to implement actual autonomous driving, but instead it could be implemented by employing millions of dronepilots in some far away country that drive your car for you.

Like in Neal Stephenson's Diamond Age. Poorly paid actors in boxes acting as voice assistants.

Similar to what the company Spinvox used to do. Artificial Artificial Intelligence, they would break up audio recordings and have different people transcribe them, then piece the transcriptions together. They sold the service to wireless companies so customers could get automatic voicemail transcription.
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