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Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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Post by minsc__and__boo »

er4hn wrote: post #208
minsc__and__boo wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It's worth noting that this doesn't enable a true digital nomad lifestyle if that's what you want. This isn't that hard to circumvent with a mailing address. The real blocker has been pre-covid management not being comfortable with 100% remote.

State taxes are generally not something you want to circumvent. Ps - great baldurs gate 2 ref in your username :)

Well, tax circumvention never is a good idea, but I know plenty of military folks who get away with it though.

I once saw a sailboat named "Minsc", that had a dingy hanging off the stern named "Boo" but it was gone before I could snap a picture. Probably off to do butt kicking.

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Post by totaldex »

tayo42 wrote: post #160
FartyMcFarter wrote: post #52

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In particular I'm curious on the impact to junior employees. Some people think that junior people are having trouble learning things when WFH.

Why? I would think most tech related learning happens with out other people involved. Learning languages, self study, Stack over flow and simmiliar, reading books. Idk if junior employees need to coddled as much as people think. Maybe just the bottom doesn't cut it. Developing your knowledge on your own is a skill you need any way.

Perhaps, but this assumes that this information is available and accessible.

Many engineering organizations don't have full documentation on institutional knowledge, and many things travel by word of mouth.

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Post by dreyfan »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #152
dreyfan wrote: post #75

I currently have 10 fully remote engineering jobs. The bar is so low, oversight is non-existent, and everyone is so forgiving for under performance I can coast about 4-8 weeks before a given job fires me. Currently on a $1.5M run-rate for comp this year. And the interviewing process is so much faster today, companies are desperate, it takes me 2-3hrs of total effort to land a new job with thousands to chose from.

That's hilarious and it sounds like a great anecdote for parties! I'm in the opposite situation, I quit my only job because I couldn't stand wasting my time and I'll just keep on running my business (less money but freedom and time to make more and grow). Out of curiosity and if you're happy to share, are you still running your own company while "working" these jobs?

> still running your own company?

No, I sold my company in 2019 and exited last summer. It took up far too much time to pull off anything like this. The new venture is purely in fundraising and research mode until I stop this little experiment.

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Post by cactus2093 »

cletus wrote: post #189

Speaking as someone who now works remotely permanently, this has been... life-changing. So for 10 years I lived in NYC and--don't get me wrong--there are lots of things I liked about NYC but I'm so over the summers and the winters. Also bear in mind that I think NYC is infinitely better for most people to live in than the Bay Area. But I now live in Florida. It's about the 182nd day in a row where it's been 70-80F. S…

> NYC summers are a special kind of hell beyond the heat and humidity

That is absolutely wild to me. I also lived in NYC for 10 years, the summers there are magical. The city comes alive in such a unique way, people are outside relaxing in the parks, having backyard and rooftop parties, heading out to the beach on the weekends. There are a bunch of great weekend trips to be had a few hours away by train in Long Island or Connecticut or upstate NY. You can join an after work rec league with friends. There's concerts in the park once or twice a week, and free movie showings on the waterfront. The bars and restaurants are more lively.

One of the best parts of NYC in general is just how much there is to do if you like getting out and being social, and in the summer it's just turned up to the max.

Most apartments don't come with AC, but as long as you can afford $300 for a good floor unit to put in front of the window you can keep your home temperature very comfortable.

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Post by tutmeister »

minsc__and__boo wrote: post #206
mustafa_pasi wrote: post #130

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It's not just you. I cannot manage to do people stuff over videochat. Not to mention virtual whiteboards are a frustratingly poor imitation of the real deal. On the other hand, I do work better on my own, when I just need to grind out some work. I guess my ideal would be 2 or 3 days remote and the rest in office.

Whiteboarding has been a real loss here. It feels like ages since I picked up a marker and made a data model. There really is no remote alternative that isn't super expensive or lacks the responsiveness of in-person.

Have you tried Miro? It's $8/month if you want to invite others to edit your board. I find it offers good value at that price point. I'm a UX/product manager though, so I tend to pull in a lot of external visuals while I'm working. So YMMV.

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Post by nkozyra »

cletus wrote: post #189

Speaking as someone who now works remotely permanently, this has been... life-changing. So for 10 years I lived in NYC and--don't get me wrong--there are lots of things I liked about NYC but I'm so over the summers and the winters. Also bear in mind that I think NYC is infinitely better for most people to live in than the Bay Area. But I now live in Florida. It's about the 182nd day in a row where it's been 70-80F. S…

> But I now live in Florida. It's about the 182nd day in a row where it's been 70-80F.

What part of Florida? It generally starts hitting 90 in May most of the state and stays there into November.

I've lived in NYC and yes, January-March can be tough and a few weeks in September are awful but Florida is just oppressively hot for six+ months of the year. The worst part is it doesn't cool down at night so you don't even get early morning or late night comfortable outside time

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Post by majormajor »

cletus wrote: post #189

Speaking as someone who now works remotely permanently, this has been... life-changing. So for 10 years I lived in NYC and--don't get me wrong--there are lots of things I liked about NYC but I'm so over the summers and the winters. Also bear in mind that I think NYC is infinitely better for most people to live in than the Bay Area. But I now live in Florida. It's about the 182nd day in a row where it's been 70-80F. S…

> But I now live in Florida. It's about the 182nd day in a row where it's been 70-80F. Sure it's humid and that may sound weird after the comment about NYC summers but NYC summers are a special kind of hell beyond the heat and humidity. Here there's usually a breeze. I've been here 6 months and I don't even use the AC.

You're comparing FL winters to NYC summers? I'm not sure exactly where you are in FL, but... in most of the state, it gets as hot or hotter than NYC in the summer!

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

fbggthro wrote: post #166
someelephant wrote: post #28

Let's be real. The loser here is middle managers. Not all of them. Just the ones who feed off of the high they get from having control over the office environment.

This strawman about middle managers in the WFH conversation is exhausting and annoying. Do you really think middle managers are some evil scum-sucking lizards that actually enjoy things like hour long commutes and wearing uncomfortable clothes? They're people just like you are, and they enjoy sitting at home in their pajamas just as much as you do. Maybe, just maybe the issue is that middle managers have actual, legi…

Here here. I want the office, to help me focus, and to reduce friction when communicating and solving problems.

Most of my job is not coding. My job isn't assembly line work. It is solving problems in coordination with my peers, which yields small amounts of code and configuration.

If I had straight-ahead clear as day coding to do, and I was motivated -- then, yes, being at home in my own environment in the quiet would be great. But that's not my job, nor the job of many other people.

Working from home is not for everyone. I'm looking forward to returning.

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Post by wtvanhest »

cletus wrote: post #189

Speaking as someone who now works remotely permanently, this has been... life-changing. So for 10 years I lived in NYC and--don't get me wrong--there are lots of things I liked about NYC but I'm so over the summers and the winters. Also bear in mind that I think NYC is infinitely better for most people to live in than the Bay Area. But I now live in Florida. It's about the 182nd day in a row where it's been 70-80F. S…

I grew up in Naples. If you have only been there 6 months, you haven’t lived there during the summer yet.

That said, I actually love Florida’s climate. The problem with Florida for me is the lack of outdoor activities, especially in the summer except for the beach and boat.

I personally prefer the bay areas hiking, access to park, playgrounds etc, but if you prefer beach, Florida is amazing and you adjust quickly to shorts 320 days a year.

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