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Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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Clearly great news for Facebook employees. For reference, the previous policy was that only level 5+ could request to work remotely.

what is "level 5+"?

Avg. 4-5 years of FB experience out of college or 8 years of experience in industry.

Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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I am really curious to see where we'll be in a year, two, three down the line wrt remote/office/hybrid work at major companies. This forced experiment has had some surprising outcomes about the effectiveness of remote workplaces, but working from home for only a year, in pandemic conditions, is clearly not the same as indefinitely in normal times. But there's reason to think that may go even better, not worse; I am r…

> has had some surprising outcomes about the effectiveness of remote workplaces Curious, what are the outcomes?

Replacing predictions with experienced reality. Seeing things continue as normal and at full pace while working from home which many expected was not possible.

Our company was quite restrictive of working from home previously but after last year seeing that we had our most productive year ever, things loosened up a lot.

Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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I am really curious to see where we'll be in a year, two, three down the line wrt remote/office/hybrid work at major companies. This forced experiment has had some surprising outcomes about the effectiveness of remote workplaces, but working from home for only a year, in pandemic conditions, is clearly not the same as indefinitely in normal times. But there's reason to think that may go even better, not worse; I am r…

> has had some surprising outcomes about the effectiveness of remote workplaces Curious, what are the outcomes?

I was mostly just referring to the fact that team/org/company productivity does not seem reduced compared to pre-pandemic times. As far as I know, no major tech company is dealing with more outages/incidents or slower product launches than they typically saw, unless their business model was directly impacted by spending pattern changes. I think most companies expected lower output from forced-all-remote teams but don't seem to be seeing it.

Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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So now Facebook is better than Apple for the employees.

I don't think that Apple ever had a vibe as being especially great for employees. Secrecy to a level that you may not know what product you're actually working on, and heavy top down management as a result.

They also basically ban you from working on open source. One employee detailed that they could not release some improvements they made to a Wordpress photo gallery plug-in because legal told them it competes with the iPhone/iCloud photo gallery.

Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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So now Facebook is better than Apple for the employees.

I don't think that Apple ever had a vibe as being especially great for employees. Secrecy to a level that you may not know what product you're actually working on, and heavy top down management as a result.

Yeah, in terms of software working at Apple is impressive for the fact that their products are luxuries, not for any real technical reasons.

Hardware is totally different though

Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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Clearly great news for Facebook employees. For reference, the previous policy was that only level 5+ could request to work remotely.

> Clearly great news for Facebook employees.

For some Facebook employees, definitely. Personally, I think I'll be finding a job elsewhere now.

Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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For FB WFHers wondering whether COL adjustments are in the cards https://mashable.com/article/mark-zuckerberg-instagram-whats...

Even if they do them they’re extremely unlikely to be significant

After you move to a low COL area, you are really at their mercy, no?

Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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post #26

Clearly great news for Facebook employees. For reference, the previous policy was that only level 5+ could request to work remotely.

> Clearly great news for Facebook employees. For some Facebook employees, definitely. Personally, I think I'll be finding a job elsewhere now.

I'm curious to hear why - what do you see as the drawback of more remote coworkers?

Re: Facebook extends its work-at-home policy to most employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

what is "level 5+"?

L3 is new grad L4 is an intermediate level - you must be promoted to L5 in a fixed time frame (2-3 yearish) L5 is a senior level

>you must be promoted to L5 in a fixed time frame (2-3 yearish)

What happens if you don't?

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