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Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

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> The El Salvador President has previously said the move will open up financial services to the 70% of Salvadoreans who do not have bank accounts. Right. People who can't even afford a bank account would now all be using financial services by paying 10 dollars per transaction.

It's not about "affording". Banks outright refuse people, businesses etc.

Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

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Other governments are already accumulating BTC silently. Way too many eyes on the topic lately. There will be some FUD along the way (maybe even El Salvador banning/unbanning BTC up to few times - the classic) but I believe at some time news will start popping left and right that other countries hold BTC on balance sheets. Will eventually start with ETH too if it hasn't already. Re people below: I don't have any sour…

Do you have sources about other countries accumulating BTC?

In short no - I've edited parent post for more info

Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

#113
post #43

Other governments are already accumulating BTC silently. Way too many eyes on the topic lately. There will be some FUD along the way (maybe even El Salvador banning/unbanning BTC up to few times - the classic) but I believe at some time news will start popping left and right that other countries hold BTC on balance sheets. Will eventually start with ETH too if it hasn't already. Re people below: I don't have any sour…

Do you have any sources for "Other governments are already accumulating BTC silently."?

In short no - I've edited parent post for more info

Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

#114
Regardless of your feelings about Bitcoin, it was really exciting to see the president of El Salvador himself pop into a Twitter Space last night, as the bill was being voted on, to chat with bitcoiners about the implications of the new law. This is exactly the appeal of Twitter, if you think about it: it's a kind of "direct democracy" where the leader of a country can chat casually with everyday people -- and not in some scripted townhall photo-op, but within a space moderated by the people themselves!

Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

#115

> The El Salvador President has previously said the move will open up financial services to the 70% of Salvadoreans who do not have bank accounts. Right. People who can't even afford a bank account would now all be using financial services by paying 10 dollars per transaction.

Where I live ordinary bank transactions are free for ordinary consumers. I never pay a transaction fee or any annual fees. My bank used to charge an annual fee for a credit card but they have stopped charging now. In fact in my whole life (I'm 65 so about 50 years of having bank accounts) I have never paid transaction fees for ordinary transactions (in the UK and Norway).

Where I live (USA) I tried to transfer money between my Wells Fargo account (that charges large fees for foreign ATM withdrawals) and a credit union account (that required heavy bureaucracy to open a business account, that's why my main accounts are in Wells Fargo, but the credit union withdrawals at the foreign ATMs are free). Wells Fargo offered Zelle for ACH but I got confused. Then I tried transferring through Robin Hood, where I had both accounts connected. RH presented a pop-up saying that if I want to transfer to a different account from the funding account, I have to email them some documents to comply with AML. Same with WeBull. PayPal charges fees. So I came to the conclusion that the only simple way was to write myself a check, and deposit it in the phone app to the other account. And that is only permitted because checks were created before the current Orwellian financial system. But I could not write a check, because I am abroad and do not have my checkbook.

Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

#116

I wonder to what degree this is related to the prevalence of organized crime (Bitcoin being a 'currency' of the black market).

When will this myth die. Do you have any evidence of this? See below a report from a firm whose task is to find bad behavior on the blockchain.

Key points:

- 0.34% of tx in 2020 were illicit - Of that 0.34% it is almost all scams and darknet market tx

In 2021, the large darknet markets either only accept Monero or accept BTC and Monero. Large ransomware gangs like DarkSide prefer Monero (they offer discounts for it). It's reasonable to assume that the percentage of BTC tx that are illicit are even lower as Monero assumes more of the activity.

BTC is not a 'currency' of the black markets.

- https://blog.chainalysis.com/reports/2021-crypto-crime-repor...

Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And before people ask, it uses the lightning network so it's non-custodial.

If you run your own lightning node, lightning is non-custodial. But strike is just a wallet that uses their own lightning node. So, if using strike, strike has custody of your funds.

how does this work? Isn't Strike just a company that manages the transactions at which point why is Bitcoin even mentioned at all?
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