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El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

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> The El Salvador President has previously said the move will open up financial services to the 70% of Salvadoreans who do not have bank accounts. Right. People who can't even afford a bank account would now all be using financial services by paying 10 dollars per transaction.

They're using Lightning network which provides almost free transactions.

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#33

> The El Salvador President has previously said the move will open up financial services to the 70% of Salvadoreans who do not have bank accounts. Right. People who can't even afford a bank account would now all be using financial services by paying 10 dollars per transaction.

El Salvador is using the lightning network to facilitate transactions for the most part. They are using the work of Strike & bitcoin beach in El Salvador as an example.

Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

#34

> The El Salvador President has previously said the move will open up financial services to the 70% of Salvadoreans who do not have bank accounts. Right. People who can't even afford a bank account would now all be using financial services by paying 10 dollars per transaction.

The narrative is that they'd use the lightning network

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#35

> The El Salvador President has previously said the move will open up financial services to the 70% of Salvadoreans who do not have bank accounts. Right. People who can't even afford a bank account would now all be using financial services by paying 10 dollars per transaction.

What the normal people will use in the beginning is going to be non-custodial LN based solution like strike. Minimal fees, easy to use. If you get a bit more, move to custodial LN wallet/onchain transactions. More fees, more security and less trust. And once you have too much BTC start storing them in an offline cold storage.

Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

#36

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How are businesses expected to deal with the high transaction fees (>$5 last time I checked)? The minimum wage in El Salvador is $300/month. Even lightning network wallets must make periodic on-chain transactions. Also most crypto exchanges charge a minimum fee for any withdrawals. These costs seem like a significant burden to place on a developing country's small and informal businesses.

Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

#37
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I don't see how this is going to benefit Salvadorans. As much as I try, I can't find a use case beyond money laundering, ransomware and extortion.

Going to help the kidnappers get paid. A fair bit of those in El Salvador: https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/el-sa...

Why do you feel like it'd be better than cash in this case?

Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

#38

> The El Salvador President has previously said the move will open up financial services to the 70% of Salvadoreans who do not have bank accounts. Right. People who can't even afford a bank account would now all be using financial services by paying 10 dollars per transaction.

Doubt they will be using the Bitcoin blockchain, likely a custodial wallet powered by a normal database. Like paying with your coinbase account to another one

Re: El Salvador makes Bitcoin legal tender

#40

> The El Salvador President has previously said the move will open up financial services to the 70% of Salvadoreans who do not have bank accounts. Right. People who can't even afford a bank account would now all be using financial services by paying 10 dollars per transaction.

What the normal people will use in the beginning is going to be non-custodial LN based solution like strike. Minimal fees, easy to use. If you get a bit more, move to custodial LN wallet/onchain transactions. More fees, more security and less trust. And once you have too much BTC start storing them in an offline cold storage.

LN still requires periodic on-chain transactions to close and open payment channels. So either these costs are being passed along to the users in El Salvador or the wallet provider is subsidizing it.
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