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Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#11

Post by edu » Wed, Jun 09, 2021, 9:08 AM UTC

It's down, archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210609074720/https://vivaldi.c...

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#12

Post by otabdeveloper4 » Wed, Jun 09, 2021, 9:08 AM UTC

Not going to download it just to find out that they didn't bother supporting Office365.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#13

Post by j_koreth » Wed, Jun 09, 2021, 9:09 AM UTC

inter_netuser wrote: post #9

website is down. how much spyware is in their browser? is it fully open sourced?

I'm not aware of any spyware in the browser.

I believe the source is online but not licensed under a free license (Someone is free to correct me on that).

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#14

Post by csabakissi » Wed, Jun 09, 2021, 9:09 AM UTC

haunter wrote: post #5

Vinnl wrote: post #4

Off-topic, but: does anyone know how Vivaldi is funded? I tried looking for it for a bit, but couldn't find any income streams.

First hit in Google https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/

that link doesn't work: Error establishing a database connection

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#15

Post by whikhngbu359 » Wed, Jun 09, 2021, 9:12 AM UTC

oblio wrote: post #3

Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…

I believe Opera was the first browsers to introduce tabs.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by rplnt » Wed, Jun 09, 2021, 9:13 AM UTC

I really tried to like Vivaldi, and it could be a good browser, but is so unbearably slow. The whole UI is unresponsive. Opening a new tab can take almost a second. Price for javascript apps I guess.

edit for clarification: This was on OSX, on Windows it was OK.

Used it for almost a year as a secondary browser, no change, gave up.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

#17

Post by rplnt » Wed, Jun 09, 2021, 9:14 AM UTC

throw737858 wrote: post #8

I think it follows spirit of old Opera 12 very well. It is even opensource (kind of).

For true old Opera experience there's Otter.

https://otter-browser.org/

But it's being developed by a very small community, and probably can't keep up, haven't tried it in a while.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by _trampeltier » Wed, Jun 09, 2021, 9:14 AM UTC

whikhngbu359 wrote: post #15

oblio wrote: post #3

Vivaldi Mail? That took a while :-D Vivaldi is developed by a team created by the former Opera founder and CEO. Vivaldi kind of tries to re-create the spirit of Opera, but I think it's going to be too hard to do it. For those who didn't use it, Opera was first a paid browser (which limited its reach), then an ad-supported browser (which again limited its reach). It then finally became a free browser but by then it wa…

I believe Opera was the first browsers to introduce tabs.

Yes, years before other browsers had tabs.

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by henryackerman » Wed, Jun 09, 2021, 9:15 AM UTC

csabakissi wrote: post #14

haunter wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First hit in Google https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/

that link doesn't work: Error establishing a database connection

Seems like the website was hugged to death...

Re: Vivaldi 4.0

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Post by ivanbakel » Wed, Jun 09, 2021, 9:15 AM UTC

csabakissi wrote: post #14

haunter wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First hit in Google https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-business-model/

that link doesn't work: Error establishing a database connection

You can access the archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20210506194445/https://vivaldi.c...

The short version is: they get money from things like search engine deals, which guide Vivaldi users to third-party services.