Hello, I am the maintainer of Vinix and main contributor. Feel free to ask me anything about the project!
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Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V
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Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
These issues should / could all be addressed - if you're in Discord already, which it sounds like you probably are, feel free to talk about each point. The C2V source IS in fact, already available to many folks (v devs specifically, of which there are many).
The last time I asked about how the memory management would work, the conversation was quickly shut down by a vlang dev (not Alex) who grilled on me on why I wanted to know how the language worked. I've seen this same reaction to other newcomers who dare to ask reasonable questions instead of simply drinking the Kool aide.
Strange, I'll mention it. There have been a lot of crazy trolls so a few folks are a bit thin on the patience front - especially a few who are crazy hard at work all the time on the language. I do have sympathy for them and they're great folks if you just try to understand the history and their own context a bit.
Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember the hubbub a year (or longer? another covid timewarp) ago when this first came out. It looks like now the dev of V is just pulling under 1K a month so it's not like he's making bank so if they're still just grifting it's not really working.
He lives in Sweden where the cost of living is quite a bit lower than most of the US and also has people contributing to him on GitHub. A quick Google search suggests it's quite possible to live on $1k a month in Sweden for one person but I admit I have no personal experience in that point. Edit: I was wrong about the location but that does not change my opinion.
No, he does not live in Sweden.
Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V
#24Have you bought github stars from a click farm again and then show how many stars you have compared to other langs?
did this happen? is there proof somewhere?
Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
The last time I asked about how the memory management would work, the conversation was quickly shut down by a vlang dev (not Alex) who grilled on me on why I wanted to know how the language worked. I've seen this same reaction to other newcomers who dare to ask reasonable questions instead of simply drinking the Kool aide.
Strange, I'll mention it. There have been a lot of crazy trolls so a few folks are a bit thin on the patience front - especially a few who are crazy hard at work all the time on the language. I do have sympathy for them and they're great folks if you just try to understand the history and their own context a bit.
I think it would be more productive to direct the attention to https://github.com/vlang/v/issues/1247 which catalogues a number of issues with the proposed approach and yet hasn't had any activity in 9 months.
Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V
#26I'm always interested to hear about people developing OS's. Hope they implement some stuff other ones don't have. I never heard of V so I looked it up: https://vlang.io/ An implementation of 2048: https://github.com/vlang/v/blob/master/examples/2048/2048.v in V
Oh also, mintsuki's (limine, lyre, echfs, qword, some things with managarm, etc) comments about V vs C/Rust/Odin/Zig are really interesting in #vinix-os: https://discordapp.com/channels/592103645835821068/645024404...
Can you copy those comments here by chance?
Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember the hubbub a year (or longer? another covid timewarp) ago when this first came out. It looks like now the dev of V is just pulling under 1K a month so it's not like he's making bank so if they're still just grifting it's not really working.
He lives in Sweden where the cost of living is quite a bit lower than most of the US and also has people contributing to him on GitHub. A quick Google search suggests it's quite possible to live on $1k a month in Sweden for one person but I admit I have no personal experience in that point. Edit: I was wrong about the location but that does not change my opinion.
The cost of living in Sweden is not quite a bit lower than most of the US. It may be less than Manhattan or SF but it's certainly not cheap, especially compared to most of the US. I visited Sweden a few years back and found most things to be very expensive and I just did a quick Google search now to confirm before writing this comment.
Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V
#28Have you bought github stars from a click farm again and then show how many stars you have compared to other langs?
did this happen? is there proof somewhere?
Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V
#29I remember shenanigans when V was first announced (release date for public preview, but for a little money you get early access), people being upset that it was half-baked, etc. and wrote it off, but I've heard that it has since changed a ton and is nothing like the early days. Can someone familiar with recent V developments comment on this? It makes bold promises that would be awesome to see realized, but I got the…
Not only did this project make a lot of false claims about itself but also other existing programming languages. This included Nim (which I am one of the core devs on).
It’s rather sad to see people get roped in by these claims. This project is a true example of how far pushing false promises and lies can get you and it makes me a bit sad about the world.
Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh also, mintsuki's (limine, lyre, echfs, qword, some things with managarm, etc) comments about V vs C/Rust/Odin/Zig are really interesting in #vinix-os: https://discordapp.com/channels/592103645835821068/645024404...
Can you copy those comments here by chance?
I basically said that V lends itself better to this kind of development; and the modular, headerless structure gets less messy than C codebases.
I also said that while I was skeptical of V (I have read all the criticism many times and I was also critical of the language for the longest time), it lends itself relatively well to kernel development and I am generally having a good time developing Vinix, only encountering minor compiler-related issues here and there, mostly with inline assembly.
I also said that the language, by virtue of it currently being a relatively thin wrapper over plain C, resonates with me more as a C developer than somewhat similar alternatives like Zig or Rust.
Matter of opinions, really.