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Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V

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I remember shenanigans when V was first announced (release date for public preview, but for a little money you get early access), people being upset that it was half-baked, etc. and wrote it off, but I've heard that it has since changed a ton and is nothing like the early days. Can someone familiar with recent V developments comment on this? It makes bold promises that would be awesome to see realized, but I got the…

It's still smoke and mirrors from a dreadfully unstable language. Criticism from https://christine.website/blog/vlang-update-2020-06-17 still holds to this day.

FALSE. Look at the date and check out: https://github.com/vlang/v

Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V

#13

I remember shenanigans when V was first announced (release date for public preview, but for a little money you get early access), people being upset that it was half-baked, etc. and wrote it off, but I've heard that it has since changed a ton and is nothing like the early days. Can someone familiar with recent V developments comment on this? It makes bold promises that would be awesome to see realized, but I got the…

Things have improved but it's not clear the author realizes the magnitude of what he's trying to do. The big ticket item is the autofree memory management system which promises near C/Rust performance and minimal overhead without the complexity of borrowing and ownership. To date, this system does not work and is "wip" as the vlang community likes to say. There are also no clear explanations of how it works beyond ju…

Reminds me of this line by tom_mellior[0]:

> I wish people stopped approaching language design from the point of view that the people who have been working on garbage collection for the last 60 years are all idiots who don't see how simple it all is.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26765369

Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V

#14

I remember shenanigans when V was first announced (release date for public preview, but for a little money you get early access), people being upset that it was half-baked, etc. and wrote it off, but I've heard that it has since changed a ton and is nothing like the early days. Can someone familiar with recent V developments comment on this? It makes bold promises that would be awesome to see realized, but I got the…

Things have improved but it's not clear the author realizes the magnitude of what he's trying to do. The big ticket item is the autofree memory management system which promises near C/Rust performance and minimal overhead without the complexity of borrowing and ownership. To date, this system does not work and is "wip" as the vlang community likes to say. There are also no clear explanations of how it works beyond ju…

I remember the hubbub a year (or longer? another covid timewarp) ago when this first came out. It looks like now the dev of V is just pulling under 1K a month so it's not like he's making bank so if they're still just grifting it's not really working.

Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things have improved but it's not clear the author realizes the magnitude of what he's trying to do. The big ticket item is the autofree memory management system which promises near C/Rust performance and minimal overhead without the complexity of borrowing and ownership. To date, this system does not work and is "wip" as the vlang community likes to say. There are also no clear explanations of how it works beyond ju…

I remember the hubbub a year (or longer? another covid timewarp) ago when this first came out. It looks like now the dev of V is just pulling under 1K a month so it's not like he's making bank so if they're still just grifting it's not really working.

No grifting going on. We have a vibrant awesome community that feels very Ruby-like in many ways. Good people.

Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V

#16

I remember shenanigans when V was first announced (release date for public preview, but for a little money you get early access), people being upset that it was half-baked, etc. and wrote it off, but I've heard that it has since changed a ton and is nothing like the early days. Can someone familiar with recent V developments comment on this? It makes bold promises that would be awesome to see realized, but I got the…

Things have improved but it's not clear the author realizes the magnitude of what he's trying to do. The big ticket item is the autofree memory management system which promises near C/Rust performance and minimal overhead without the complexity of borrowing and ownership. To date, this system does not work and is "wip" as the vlang community likes to say. There are also no clear explanations of how it works beyond ju…

These issues should / could all be addressed - if you're in Discord already, which it sounds like you probably are, feel free to talk about each point. The C2V source IS in fact, already available to many folks (v devs specifically, of which there are many).

Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things have improved but it's not clear the author realizes the magnitude of what he's trying to do. The big ticket item is the autofree memory management system which promises near C/Rust performance and minimal overhead without the complexity of borrowing and ownership. To date, this system does not work and is "wip" as the vlang community likes to say. There are also no clear explanations of how it works beyond ju…

I remember the hubbub a year (or longer? another covid timewarp) ago when this first came out. It looks like now the dev of V is just pulling under 1K a month so it's not like he's making bank so if they're still just grifting it's not really working.

He lives in Sweden where the cost of living is quite a bit lower than most of the US and also has people contributing to him on GitHub. A quick Google search suggests it's quite possible to live on $1k a month in Sweden for one person but I admit I have no personal experience in that point.

Edit: I was wrong about the location but that does not change my opinion.

Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Things have improved but it's not clear the author realizes the magnitude of what he's trying to do. The big ticket item is the autofree memory management system which promises near C/Rust performance and minimal overhead without the complexity of borrowing and ownership. To date, this system does not work and is "wip" as the vlang community likes to say. There are also no clear explanations of how it works beyond ju…

These issues should / could all be addressed - if you're in Discord already, which it sounds like you probably are, feel free to talk about each point. The C2V source IS in fact, already available to many folks (v devs specifically, of which there are many).

The last time I asked about how the memory management would work, the conversation was quickly shut down by a vlang dev (not Alex) who grilled on me on why I wanted to know how the language worked. I've seen this same reaction to other newcomers who dare to ask reasonable questions instead of simply drinking the Kool aide.

Re: Vinix – An effort to write a modern, fast, and interesting operating system in V

#19

I remember shenanigans when V was first announced (release date for public preview, but for a little money you get early access), people being upset that it was half-baked, etc. and wrote it off, but I've heard that it has since changed a ton and is nothing like the early days. Can someone familiar with recent V developments comment on this? It makes bold promises that would be awesome to see realized, but I got the…

Things have improved but it's not clear the author realizes the magnitude of what he's trying to do. The big ticket item is the autofree memory management system which promises near C/Rust performance and minimal overhead without the complexity of borrowing and ownership. To date, this system does not work and is "wip" as the vlang community likes to say. There are also no clear explanations of how it works beyond ju…

who inspired who here ? musk or v-author ?
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