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Re: Grafana 8.0

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Post by cge »

torkelo wrote: post #25
slashdot2008 wrote: post #23

Will grafana displace industrial historian and HMI software? historians just store time series data and allow you to plot it and cost $30k for a license? The HMI software suites usually have worse time series plotting and trending analysis than a historian but they allow you to put buttons on the screen to control your process, and come with some type of alarm display system.

We hope so, a UI for placing buttons and hooking up graphics to metrics is in the works.

That would be great. A few months ago in our (biophysics-ish) lab, I set up Grafana and InfluxDB to display output from some of our equipment during experiments as a bit of a gimmick, since I had just figured out how to extract real-time data from the machines and had used Grafana for monitoring my own servers. But rather than remaining a gimmick, while at times we've run into cases that feel a bit outside of Grafana's intended use, it has actually become our preferred way of watching the experiments, and far more useful than the manufacturer's software. With buttons and an ability to include some basic control interfaces, Grafana could well replace our everyday need for the manufacturer's software entirely.

Re: Grafana 8.0

#32

Post by dc2447 »

aequitas wrote: post #14
bitcharmer wrote: post #11

Over the years I've evaluated multiple other solutions like Grafana but none of them came even near the feature set and simplicity of Grafana. Awesome work, huge thanks to all contributors.

In the years before Grafana the situation was not much better either. Graphite's render endpoint was decent and functional, but Grafana was the first that would let you easily make nice looking graphs and dashboard. I remember there was Giraffe[0] which came close and some other alternatives[1], most of them are dead now. I'm really looking forward to using the Library panels, a feature I always found lacking. I alwa…

Also Gdash[1] and many others

I agree with your sentiment though.

[1] https://github.com/ripienaar/gdash

Re: Grafana 8.0

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Post by leeoniya »

mrkurt wrote: post #35

The uPlot change is amazing. The canvas based stuff seems so fast.

uPlot ended up being a perfect fit for dashboards with tons of timeseries charts. who would've thought? ;)

i'm very happy they hired me, maybe due to extreme lack of uPlot documentation :D

the previous library Grafana was using (Flot) is also canvas based and actually still quite fast [1], but the way it was integrated put a heavy load on other dependencies, like Moment which is not fast at all.

[1] https://github.com/leeoniya/uPlot#performance

Re: Grafana 8.0

#37

Post by richardwhiuk »

Thaxll wrote: post #34
richardwhiuk wrote: post #28

This is the first release under AGPL - feels like a major licensing change should be called out in the changelog.

https://grafana.com/blog/2021/04/20/grafana-loki-tempo-relic...

I'm aware of that article - thought not everyone will be - that's not the changelog.

Re: Grafana 8.0

#38

Post by elktea »

yakata wrote: post #19

I don't understand the duplication of alerting with Grafana/Alertmanager. Is it not better to keep all alert configuration central in prometheus alerting rules ?

Prometheus's language PromQL is pretty inscrutable and the alert manager is very bare-bones. I find the entire project is pretty user-hostile wrt documentation and examples actually.

Re: Grafana 8.0

#39

Post by elktea »

xiconfjs wrote: post #33

Are there any new development for replacing our Cacti weathermap? Would love to bury it forever.

Agree, that would be nice.

I use the weathermap as a standalone app with the following custom datasources:

https://github.com/amousset/php-weathermap-zabbix-plugin https://github.com/lodpp/network-weathermap-prometheus-datas...

Re: Grafana 8.0

#40

Post by kuon »

I really liked Grafana, and I was using it for my personal servers monitoring, using collectd and InfluxDB, but recent updates changed everything, collectd became second class citizen with InfluxDB, and I was unable to replicate my queries with the new Grafana and InfluxDB.

I do not know if it is Grafana or InfluxDB faults (I guess IDB changed their API and Grafana followed), but I got lost.

I went back to plain RRDTool with a few static HTML pages with my graphs on it.

I don't know how you could this turning point where a tool become too complicated for "personal-pro" use, but I've seen this quite a lot (docker, chef.io, grafana).

I still think grafana is a great product, but it has sailed in the "enterprise" territory.

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