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Re: How did Replit respond to this blog post?

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Post by luffapi »

brhsagain wrote: post #49

For those calling Amjad's apology insincere: what would convince you otherwise? He's stated plainly that he did x, x was wrong, and he's sorry for doing x (x being making legal threats and abusing his power). Do you need him to concede his entire point of view 100%? If Riju really did copy repl.it, are you saying he should let that go in order to make a proper apology? Why is that a reasonable demand? I think I see o…

> what is the right way for him to assert his own moral grievance before this whole matter wraps up?

No one owes Replit success. It doesn’t matter what the CEO says, I’ll be using alternatives. There’s really nothing to “wrap up”. Other than to act as a cautionary tale to other executives who may be tempted to flex a power differential.

Re: How did Replit respond to this blog post?

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Post by yepthatsreality »

minimaxir wrote: post #79
yepthatsreality wrote: post #59

Was this removed from the front page because Replit has taken money from Ycombinator? EDIT: Just to clarify. This post has gained over 200 points and 70 comments on the last hour. It jumped from top 5 posts to low end of the top 50 posts in seconds and is rapidly sinking. Just curious what decision led to the hiding of a popular post.

Usually updates are penalized, which this is.

That makes sense. Infinite scroll and linking to the updates section made me think it was a new article.

Re: How did Replit respond to this blog post?

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Post by ncmncm »

threatofrain wrote: post #58
swyx wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not defending his action here at all but the psychology of being a startup founder is interesting here. he couldve "seen this movie before" and jumped to conclusions. he couldve just had a rough day. sometimes you spend entire adult life feeling like the whole world is against you and you lash out without thinking it through. everyone is armchair quarterbacking here on what was the rational thing to do. but we are mo…

The CEO Amjad Masad was on Twitter doubling down on his accusations that Radon is a thief, even after his post on HN. Even now Amjad refuses to provide any detail or receipts to Radon for his public accusations of tortious behavior. > everyone is armchair quarterbacking here on what was the rational thing to do. Do you seriously prefer your web psychoanalysis?

BTW, a habit of spurious legal harassment is called "barratry". It is harder to demonstrate it to the satisfaction of courts than it perhaps should be, possibly because the habit is profitable for lawyers.

Re: How did Replit respond to this blog post?

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Post by sillysaurusx »

borski wrote: post #20

The problem here is the unreasonable reaction off the bat. Look, I’ve faced issues like this before - I’ve even done dumber things in response, in my past. But, and this is important, just stop. For five minutes. When something upsets you, and you JUST WANT TO SEND THIS EMAIL - don’t. Wait five minutes. Take a walk. Tell someone else about the issue. Then, and only then, after you’ve not thought about the email for a…

Tell someone else about the issue.

This would solve a lot of problems, I think.

Re: How did Replit respond to this blog post?

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Post by hashbig »

From the wording of this “apology” it’s clear that this is just meant to save face and damage control. I don’t think he would’ve reached out had the author not published the first blog post.

“Virtue is what you do when nobody is looking. The rest is marketing”. – Nassim Taleb

Re: How did Replit respond to this blog post?

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Post by dang »

yepthatsreality wrote: post #59

Was this removed from the front page because Replit has taken money from Ycombinator? EDIT: Just to clarify. This post has gained over 200 points and 70 comments on the last hour. It jumped from top 5 posts to low end of the top 50 posts in seconds and is rapidly sinking. Just curious what decision led to the hiding of a popular post.

This story was at #1 all day yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27424195. Under normal circumstances we downweight indignation threads—we have to, because otherwise they would dominate HN's front page every single day, and that's not the kind of site HN is supposed to be.

However, we moderate HN less, not more, when YC-funded startups are involved in a story (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...). In keeping with that principle, we took a hands-off approach with yesterday's thread.

Today's post, however, is a follow-up to yesterday's. Indeed it's basically the same story. There are well-established moderation rules about that: repetition is bad for curiosity [1]; we downweight follow-ups [2] unless they add significant new information (SNI), defined as information capable of supporting a substantively different discussion [3].

Moderating HN less does not mean not moderating it at all—that would be a gigantic loophole. Having bent the rules drastically to accommodate yesterday's thread, I don't think it would serve the community to do the same thing all over again the next day. Indeed, we've gotten a significant number of emails about this post, asking us why it was on the front page when the same story was so prominent yesterday. That's because HN users are used to the site not being overly repetitive. People come to HN for new and above all different things (diffs are what's interesting [4]), and we need to take care to preserve that property.

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

[3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

[4] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

Edit: I posted a related comment at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27439412.

Re: How did Replit respond to this blog post?

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Post by ncmncm »

brhsagain wrote: post #49

For those calling Amjad's apology insincere: what would convince you otherwise? He's stated plainly that he did x, x was wrong, and he's sorry for doing x (x being making legal threats and abusing his power). Do you need him to concede his entire point of view 100%? If Riju really did copy repl.it, are you saying he should let that go in order to make a proper apology? Why is that a reasonable demand? I think I see o…

It's not an actual apology when you not only justify the bad behavior, but then go on to repeat the accusation.

"I'm sorry I slugged you but you made me really mad. I won't do it again if you don't" is wholesale failure.

Re: How did Replit respond to this blog post?

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Post by dang »

yepthatsreality wrote: post #75
brhsagain wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think so. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

That’s for the previous thread though. Unless I’m missing something every thing he says doesn’t necessarily apply to this thread.

From my perspective it does apply. Please see my comment upthread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27439301. If there's something there you feel I haven't addressed, I'd be happy to hear what it is.

Re: How did Replit respond to this blog post?

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Post by theiafan »

Given that Amjad seems particularly worried about people encroaching in this space, let me again say that nothing about Replit is unique, the use of Nix for Replit is literally an idea years past its prime. Nothing remotely unique.

Amjad, if your securing your moat via threats, you better look out.

To anyone else, go grab Theia. In about an hour you can get something better than Replit going, and if you combine with Nix/Guix, there's just no reason to deal with people that behave like Amjad.

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