MoviePass settles FTC allegations that they limited usage, exposed user data

Post by gogopuppygogo » Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 5:57 PM UTC

Chris2048 wrote: post #25

Someone1234 wrote: post #10

If a private individual did the things set out here they'd be criminally liable. When a company executive orders employees to do these things, they're not facing any criminal complaint at all (any of them). See also Wells Fargo multiple thefts (both fraudulent accounts with fees, and literally entire homes/all possessions). It is pretty evident that many laws are constructed (e.g. CFAA) wherein there's one rule for i…

If corps are people, maybe they should receive jail sentences as such - and then their executives & beneficial owners can carry them out based on liability. A CEO that takes full control and makes a one-man-shop would therefore be fully liable for any sentence received, and can only avoid this be sharing control.

Post by jedberg » Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 5:58 PM UTC

Chris2048 wrote: post #25

Someone1234 wrote: post #10

If a private individual did the things set out here they'd be criminally liable. When a company executive orders employees to do these things, they're not facing any criminal complaint at all (any of them). See also Wells Fargo multiple thefts (both fraudulent accounts with fees, and literally entire homes/all possessions). It is pretty evident that many laws are constructed (e.g. CFAA) wherein there's one rule for i…

If corps are people, maybe they should receive jail sentences as such - and then their executives & beneficial owners can carry them out based on liability. A CEO that takes full control and makes a one-man-shop would therefore be fully liable for any sentence received, and can only avoid this be sharing control.

Post by bdcravens » Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 6:00 PM UTC

legitster wrote: post #42

Someone1234 wrote: post #10

If a private individual did the things set out here they'd be criminally liable. When a company executive orders employees to do these things, they're not facing any criminal complaint at all (any of them). See also Wells Fargo multiple thefts (both fraudulent accounts with fees, and literally entire homes/all possessions). It is pretty evident that many laws are constructed (e.g. CFAA) wherein there's one rule for i…

IANAL, but it seems like the AG is still well within their power to press charges and consumers are still free to pursue class action.

Post by telchar » Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 6:01 PM UTC

leephillips wrote: post #34

Someone1234 wrote: post #10

If a private individual did the things set out here they'd be criminally liable. When a company executive orders employees to do these things, they're not facing any criminal complaint at all (any of them). See also Wells Fargo multiple thefts (both fraudulent accounts with fees, and literally entire homes/all possessions). It is pretty evident that many laws are constructed (e.g. CFAA) wherein there's one rule for i…

In regard to financial institutions getting away with crime, a former SEC commissioner became exasperated that this had become US government policy by 2015: “the latest series of actions has effectively rendered criminal convictions of financial institutions largely symbolic.” https://www.sec.gov/news/statement/stein-waivers-granted-dis...

Post by xmprt » Tue, Jun 08, 2021, 6:03 PM UTC

cr1895 wrote: post #75

jlarocco wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but any business can survive indefinitely if they're given unlimited funding with no expectation of returns. In your opinion, what's the point of being the main funnel to theaters if you're losing money hand over fist to do so? What was the plan for profitability? Was the goal to somehow strong arm movie theaters into discounted pricing? Why would theaters agree to that when there's no benefit for them to do so…

> The only way their business model can work is if the majority of customers sign up and never use it, which is a very weird thing for a business to depend on, IMO. This is essentially the concept of insurance, is it not?